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… Doesn’t this Judge Get It ?? [#Wisconsin][#voter id law]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,July 31st,2016

.. you would think that this judge would understand [already] that the 7th Circuit and the U.S. Supreme Court soundly approved the voter id law in Wisconsin ..

.. unfortunately , this idiot judge just did not get the message .Worse , this idiot applied an unconstitutional approach [the disparate impact standard] in doing so .. . So what does he do ? ..

.. this judge sticks his nose in where it does not belong , not one damn bit . He strikes down the essence of the Voter I.D. law ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post ..

.. now it is up to the 7th Circuit and SCOTUS to set things right and just ..


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… Christ knows that This could Happen almost Anywhere [#including Ohio]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,March 19th,2016

.. this was Project Veritas on the prowl , in North Carolina ..

.. yea , James O ‘ Keefe struck again …

.. he took along a troup of supporters to test the system in North Carolina during the early voting season . Boy , oh boy , did he find it wanting …

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog news // video clips …

.. no , he and his troops did not commit voter fraud . But it would have been easy for them to do so . It would have been so , so easy for them to do it , though …

.. it would be so easy …

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… With Ohio , Now What [#Voter I.D. bill]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,August 10th,2015

.. actually , it is not hard .

.. provide photo I.D.s free of charge to those who do not have them .

.. most likely there will not be many folks to what this applies . Many of them will likely be of low income , so they will not have much money . But the required documents should not be hard to find and provide …

.. what about a ballot challenge ? .. there would likely be one , but in Ohio ,there is a way to block it . Just change the provisions of the state I.D. program , and put it in the state budget . it can even be done in a supplemental budget bill , if needed …

.. why ? in Ohio , if the policy changes are included in provisions to the state budget , then there can be no ballot measure to repeal it .

.. [h/t —]…
.. [link] to the blog opinion ..

.. yes , there will be court challenges . Thankfully , Ohio is in the Midwest [and in the 6th Appeals Circuit] . The 6th Appeals Circuit is one of the most conservative circuits in the country , which will help to blunt any court challenges …

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… Victory in Court [#7th Circuit]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,September 26th,2014

.. the state of Wisconsin gets its Voter ID law back …

.. better yet , the court was very harsh , both on the district court judge , and on the plaintiffs in the case …

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the court decision …

.. the district court judge [a Bill Clinton appointee] was reamed out by the appeallate judges . The appeals judges bawled out the judge for completely and totally ignoring both pending 7th Circuit precedent , as well as US Supreme Court precedent ….

.. Stare Decisis [court precedent] is important for a court . A judge is supposed to follow court precedent . A judge is supposed to have a very , very important reason (or set of reasons) to ignore it or overturn it . In the Wisconsin Voter ID case , the circuit judge totally blew it off . That is a very big blunder for a district court judge . Higher ups can try that stunt , but not the lower court ….

.. also , the appeallate judges were very harsh in their judgements towards the plaintiffs . The plaintiffs argue both disparate impact theory , as well as Voting Rights Act violations . The judges were totally on point on crushing both arguments . The big problem in both cases is that intent is required . Disparate Impact theory does not even require intent . So , out the door it goes …

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… Voter I.D. , once again …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,January 31st,2013

my take – the voter id issue needs to be addressed . the consistent horsing around on it is getting to be ridiculous .

We as voters deserve to have consistent voting laws . We also deserve to have voting laws that make sense , that act to preserve people ‘ s rights , and act to prevent fraud . politicians , and in this case , state legislators , will mess around , until pressure is brought to bear …

Also , on the conservative side , the potential of an initiative or referendum to implement a conservative – oriented voting bill , or even constitutional amendment , has to be brought to bear , in order to get the legislature ‘ s attention , in order that they will get off their butts , and pass something more to our liking …


Contrary to popular belief , voter fraud is real , and is a problem . a serious problem , no , not now . but it is a problem that needs to be addressed . and not in a politically correct fashion ! …

Ohio House may again debate divisive voter photo ID issue

Robert Higgs, The Plain Dealer [01312013]

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Legislation to require voters to show a photo ID at

polling places, a divisive issue leading up to the 2012 election in Ohio

and across the nation, appears ready to make a return appearance in the

Ohio House.


Rep. Mike Dovilla, chair of the House Policy and Legislative Oversight

Committee, says there is interest among House Republicans for such

legislation. He doubts he will sponsor it, but acknowledged it likely

would go through his committee.


“I suspect that there remains interest in a bill of that nature,”

Dovilla, a Berea Republican, said Wednesday. “We think there is broad

support in the public.”


Similar legislation moved through the House in 2011 . It required

voters show a photo identification at polling places to verify their identity. The acceptable forms of ID were driver’s licenses , state

issued ID cards, passports and military identification cards.


In Ohio, as in other states where the issue was debated, supporters

touted the laws to ensure voting integrity and thwart voter fraud.

Opponents made equally passionate cries of voter suppression.


Ultimately, the photo ID requirement was removed last year to avoid a state referendum.


Republicans hold strong majorities in both the Ohio House and Senate and

could push through legislation now. But if it is reintroduced, expect

hot debate.


“I think the broad approach toward election reform is that you want a

system where there’s the greatest possible integrity,” Dovilla said.

“There’s nary a thing in society that you can do where you don’t need to

show ID of some sort.”


Ensuring integrity of the ballot and creating a barrier to voter fraud

is important, he said. “The onus, I think, is on those who oppose this.”


Democrats are quick to counter. Requiring people to have an official ID

creates a burden that can keep some, particularly poorer voters, from

being able to vote, they say. They liken it to a tax on voting.


“We would have very serious concerns about such a proposal,” said Rep.

Kathleen Clyde a Kent Democrat and, a member of Policy and Legislative

Oversight Committee.


“An ID requirement is kind of a veiled way of having a poll tax, where

you’re requiring people to pay to have a photo ID,” Clyde said. Getting

a state-approved ID could be a financial and logistical problem for the

poor if they have to pay for documents needed to get an ID and have to

find transportation to proper offices.”


Dovilla suggested that the ID could be free for those found to be

indigent. “We want to make sure people have access to this.”


Clyde counters that people should not have to prove they are poor to be

able to vote. “Is that the process we want for our elections?”


Rep. Teresa Fedor, a Toledo Democrat, disputed the ballot integrity issue.


“There’s no outrageous amount of fraud,” she said. “It’s just a

ginned-up issue.


“You just get tired of beating back these non issues.”


Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted did not support the photo ID

requirement in the 2011 bill. His spokesman said Wednesday that Husted

would not comment on the issue now until specific legislation is



Dovilla expects that likely would be soon.


“Election bills tend to move in the first year of a two-year session

like this,” he said. “You don’t want to get into the guts of the

election cycle and then have people from either side saying you’re

trying to move the goalposts.”

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