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… the Tamir Rice case [#why the Grand Jury decision]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,December 13th,2016

.. grand juries hear evidence in a case . It can be an investigation , or it can be as the result of a criminal act ..

.. most often , a grand jury then takes a vote . It takes a vote on a ” bill ” which contains the potential charge against someone ..

.. if it votes for a ” true bill , ” then the person named in the charge sheet is charged , or , more formally , indicted . If the grand jury votes for a ” no true bill , ‘ or fails to gain the requisite vote for a ” true bill , ” then the person named in the charge sheet is cleared in the case . No further action can be taken against them . Also , constitutional ” double jeopardy ” attaches …

.. [h/t — news.yahoo.com]..
.. [link] to the news story ..

.. in this case , this was not done . The grand jury evidently voted on whether the actions of the police officers [both of them] were legally justifiable . Their decision was now obvious — the actions were justifiable . As a result , no vote on a ” bill ” was needed ..

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… There Will Likely come a Time [#FBI][#criminal][# Miz Hillary]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,May 2nd,2016

.. that the F.B.I. will reach what I believe will be a ” Come to jesus ” point in its investigation of Miz Hillary [and , likewise , about the Clinton machine] ..

.. they will have gathered a great deal of evidence . This evidence will likely have been presented [in secret] before a federal grand jury . It will be a an investigative grand jury , not necessarily a regular [criminal] one . It will be one that is used to gather evidence and other information . The decisions about who to charge and what to charge them with will be made elsewhere ..

.. [h/t — Newsmax.com]..
.. [link] to the blog post ..

.. the F.B.I. will present its case to the ObamaCrap Department of InJustice . in its report , they will make there recommendations about what those decisions should be . Then the A.G. [Loretta Lynch] will have to make the toughest decisions of her life and her career ..

.. she can make the decision to charge . If she does , then the course of the current political campaign will likely be changed , probably forever . In all likelihood , Hillary Clinton will be forced from the presidential race ..

.. she can then make the decision not to charge . If she does not do so , then it is very , very likely that there will be repercussions from those decision . People will resign their positions at the F.B.I. , UP TO AND POTENTIALLY INCLUDING Director James comey , himself . That event will also irretrievably alter the course of the campaign ..

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… The Rule of the Mob [#Ferguson , Mo]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,March 18th,2016

.. might it only be the beginning ?? ..

.. given the actions of a few , it is an excellent question ..

.. [h/t — m.NationalReview.com]..
.. [link] to the blog news …

.. these people are behaving like animals . Instead of allowing the justice system to work , they want to enact their own form of justice …

.. they actually want to lynch Darren Wilson …. how sick is that ! …

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… the Tamir Rice case [#so what happened]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,January 28th,2016

.. simple — no indictment ..

.. no case is this simple . Nor is this one ..

.. [h/t — news.yahoo.com]..
.. [link] to the news story ..

.. it does not mean that these officers [Timothy Loehrmann and Frank Gramback] are out of t the woods . It is far from the tht case . These guys must now face departmental charges [most likely] for their actions . If so , they could face suspension , or , possibly , termination from the force ..

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… the Tamir Rice case [#the grand jury]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,November 12th,2015

.. well , people were surprised . So was I . Well , I should not have been surprised ..

.. there has been a grand jury convened in the Tamir Rice case . Believe it or not , it has been hearing evidence for months ..

.. [h/t — Essence.com]..
.. [link] to the blog post …

.. it does not mean , though , that charges will be sought in the case . A decision to seek charges in the case is one that is made by the County Prosecutor . It can be done in either one of two ways . One , the Prosecutor can make the gutsy call and make the decision entirely by himself or herself . Two , the prosecutor can ask for an indictment from the grand jury . Then the jurors vote on various bill of possible indictment , and thus make their decision . they can either vote a ” true bill , ” thus indicting the person involved , or vote a ” no true bill , ” thus clearing the person …

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… People got an Education [#the Grand Jury]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,August 23rd,2015

.. well , people will understand that a grand jury is important ..

.. it is an important part of our criminal justice system …

.. grand juries date back to the beginning of our republic , and even further than that . They are a valuable check on the power of the state ..

.. [h/t — m.NationalReview.com]..
.. [link] to the news article …

.. the power of the state to indict is an awesome power . It is one that is supposed to be used wisely , and not without reason or judgement . in this case , police officer Darren Wilson was held up to the harsh light of the grand jury and its judgement ..

.. he passed , and he was not indicted …

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… the Department of InJustice cannot sustain a Case [#Michael Brown]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,December 20th,2014

.. god knows , AG Holder & his krewe are looking for an excuse for bringing civil rights charges against Ferguson , Mo police officer Darren Wilson . They would dearly love to do it ….

.. However , there has to be sound legal ground to do it . The local D.A. would have to totally butcher and botch the investigation . That is highly unlikely . Also , the state of Missouri would have to ” drop the ball . ” Also , highly unlikely . So , there will not be a pretext for federal intervention …

.. [h/t — NYSlimes.com]..
.. [link] to the news story …

.. however , a determination not to prosecute by the local county D.A. is not a legit pretext for federal intervention . The D.A. is not stupid . He is going to present the case to a diverse panel of a grand jury . Then , that panel will take a vote . That vote [a ” true bill ” (or indictment) , or a ” no true bill ” (no indictment)] will be it ….

.. An indictment means a trial . But , there could be a plea . Also , the ” no true bill ” should mean the end of it . It should , but given the charged climate that is St. Louis County , that is highly unlikely . Maybe the AG could give the locals a lesson in how the justice system really works …

.. One can always have hope . In this Administration ‘ s Department of InJustice , I doubt it …

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… Megyn Kelly is Right ! [#blasting Mo. Governor Nixon]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,August 27th,2014

.. she is spot – on right …

.. [h/t — m.NationalReview.com]..
.. [link] to the show segment …

.. she made the point that Missouri Governor Jay Nixon was extraordinary and highly irresponsible in making the comments that he did in urging a ” vigorous prosecution . ” …

.. A grand jury investigates , first , what happened . Then , once one is fairly sure that they have presented a sufficient case , then the prosecutor asks the grand jury to hand up an indictment , or not . They may not . They can vote a ” True Bill ” [an indictment] on the proposed charges , or ” no True Bill , ” thus clearing an individual …

.. that is something that many people do not understand . They understand the trial court process . But , they do not understand the grand jury process , or what it is supposed to do , or achieve …

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