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… As Nero , er , POTUS fiddles [#First Duffer]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,January 16th,2017

.. watch as the world burns …

branco cartoon (POTUS fiddles)

.. [h/t — ComicallyIncorrect.com]..
.. [link] to the cartoon …

.. it is as if POTUS could care less …. which is scary …

.. P.S. — coming to a golf course  near you ! …

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… Nice Going , Kobe Bryant …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,April 7th,2014

.. no , I really mean this .

.. Kobe has been caught up in a rough season , to say the least . He spent the most chunk of last season rehabbing after surgery on a blowout in his Achilles tendon . Then , early this year , he suffered a hairline fracture in his leg , knocking him out of the beginning of the season …

.. things have not gotten a whole lot better for him . He was only able to play about 12 to 15 games this season . The problem is that he reinjured his leg , leaving him out roughly for the remainder of the season . The Lakers really stink this year , so having him come back for a few games to finish the year makes no sense . Better to have him sit out , rest up , and get healthy ….

.. however , it is his comments on the Trayvon Martin case that have gotten him into considerable hot water . He bascially said that , just because that he is an  African – American (a black man) , that he should or could automatically support Trayvon Martin  and his cause just because of the color of his skin . The back hand of  this is that one should support Trayvon Martin from the merit of the arguments and the case , not because of skin color …

.. Kobe has an outlook on life different than most folks . His father [Joe ” Jellybean ” Bryant] was also a pro basketball player  , Joe Bryannt played some in the N.B.A. , but he played most of his professional career in Europe ,  specifically in Italy , around Rome . So Kobe was raised in a European atmosphere , travelingto various cities in Italy and other European nations (Germany & France) , plus a base in Rome gave Joe a chance to expose Kobe to the Vatican and  the Holy See …

.. [h/t — theRightScoop]..

.. [link] to the interview footage …

.. the interview  features ESPN ‘ s Steven A. Smith , who was being interviewed by talk show host Arsenio Hall . Smith apparently also agrees with Kobe …

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… I would have loved to have been a Fly on the Wall …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,April 1st,2014

.. when POTUS met the Holy Father …

.. they mave have had some issues in common (income inequality) . But not many …

.. from the details that have leaked out , POTUS got one hell of a lecture from the Holy Father . Given the problems that ObamaCrapCare has been causing for relgion and freedom , I can guess why …

.. [h/t — theGatewayPundit]..
.. [link] to the blog post …

.. to be honest , whom do you believe ? I would go with the Holy Father over the Liar of the Year , every time …

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… Outrageous ! [Religion & the ObamaCraps]

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,November 26th,2013

.. those idiots want to close our embassy at the Holy See (the Vatican) . The ObamaCraps consider it to be a ” security risk . ”

.. Are they crazy ?!?!

[h/t — the Gateway Pundit.com]

… added material [h/t — the national catholic reporter]

Vatican embassy move draws fire from former US envoys

    John L. Allen Jr.   | Nov. 20, 2013
Plans to move the U.S. embassy to the Vatican onto the grounds of the larger American embassy to Italy, though in a separate building and with a distinct entrance, are drawing fire from five former American envoys despite the tacit consent of the Vatican itself.

Justified primarily on the grounds of enhanced security, the move is described by former U.S. Ambassador James Nicholson, who’s also a former Secretary of Veterans Affairs in the Bush administration and a former chair of the Republican National Committee, as a “massive downgrade” in U.S./Vatican ties.

“It’s turning this embassy into a stepchild of the embassy to Italy,” Nicholson said.

“The Holy See is a pivot point for international affairs and a major listening post for the United States,” he said, “and to shoehorn [the U.S. delegation] into an office annex inside another embassy is an insult to American Catholics and to the Vatican.”

Nicholson, who spoke in an interview Wednesday with NCR, joins former Bush envoys Francis Rooney and Mary Ann Glendon as well as Raymond Flynn, the first Clinton ambassador, and Thomas Melady, who served the first President Bush, in objecting.

“In the diplomatic world, if you don’t have your own separate space, you’re on the road to nowhere,” said Rooney, who served as ambassador from 2005 to 2008. He’s author of The Global Vatican [1], a new book on U.S./Vatican relations.

While the move has not yet been publicly announced, a contract for renovations to the new facility has been awarded, and it’s tentatively scheduled to open in January 2015. The embassy is presently located in a building near Rome’s Circus Maximus, roughly 3 miles away from the other American diplomatic facilities in the city.

Although the Vatican traditionally has insisted that countries maintain embassies in distinct locations as a way of underscoring its autonomy, signals in this case suggest it won’t protest the relocation.

On background, a senior Vatican official told NCR on Monday that safety is a “real concern,” especially in the wake of a lethal June 2012 assault on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that claimed the lives of an American ambassador and three other officials. A U.S. State Department report after that assault recommended consolidating facilities wherever possible.

As long as the embassy remains “completely separate” from other U.S. missions, the Vatican official said, the new site represents a tolerable exception to normal practice.

The current and former Vatican ambassadors of the Obama administration as well as a senior official of the U.S. State Department all told NCR the move is primarily about security. They also say the move will bring cost savings and improved facilities and will not be accompanied by cuts in personnel or resources.

“I see no diminishing in the importance of the relationship at all,” said current U.S. Ambassador Ken Hackett.

In truth, Hackett said, “the relationship between the Vatican and the U.S. government hasn’t been better than it is right now in quite a while,” especially under Pope Francis.

That view was echoed by the State Department official.

“Having the embassy close to the other missions gives it greater stature,” the official said, who was authorized to speak to NCR on background. “It makes it central to everything the U.S. is doing in Italy and the region rather than being out of sight and out of mind.”

Especially given the global interest in Francis, the official said, “If anything, we anticipate intensifying our relationship.”

Hackett and others note that a few other countries, such as Israel, have always had their embassies in Rome at the same location while others, such as the United Kingdom and the Netherlands, have recently combined them.

Those assurances, however, haven’t mollified the critics. Nicholson rejected the security argument, calling it a “smokescreen.”

“That’s like saying people get killed on highways because they drive cars on them,” he said. “We’re not a pauper nation … if we want to secure an embassy, we certainly can.” He said protection at the current location is “state of the art.”

Flynn described the move as part of broader secular hostility to religious groups, the Catholic church in particular.

“It’s not just those who bomb churches and kill Catholics in the Middle East who are our antagonists, but it’s also those who restrict our religious freedoms and want to close down our embassy to the Holy See,” Flynn told NCR.

Flynn said he can’t see any “diplomatic or political benefit to the United States” from the relocation and called it “shortsighted.”

Melady told NCR that no matter how the move is justified, it will be perceived in diplomatic circles as scaling back.

“Whether that’s the official reason doesn’t really matter, because that’s how people will see it,” Melady said.

Hackett called those perceptions off-base. Among other points, he said, the new facilities include better office space and the ability to host small conferences involving 30 to 40 participants.

All told, Hackett said, the new site will give visitors the impression that the United States is “serious” about engaging the Vatican.

The idea of moving the embassy has been around for at least a decade. Under former Ambassador to Italy Mel Sembler, who represented President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2005, the U.S. acquired a large building and other property adjacent to the embassy to Italy, located on Rome’s upscale Via Veneto.

The third U.S. embassy in Rome, a mission to the Food and Agriculture Organization and other U.N. agencies, moved into that compound in early 2012.

Both Nicholson and Rooney said moving the Vatican embassy to the same location was floated during their tenures, and both resisted it on the grounds that the delegation to the Vatican needs its own identity, including a separate physical location.

After the Benghazi attack, momentum for moving the embassy gathered steam. Those conversations took place toward the end of the term of former Ambassador Miguel Diaz, who represented Obama from 2009 to 2012.

“There are really serious issues in terms of protecting U.S. diplomatic personnel,” Diaz said. He said the move is “absolutely not a downgrade.”

Diaz said it will promote collaboration among the three American embassies in Rome, creating “more possibilities to do what we want to do.”

Hackett said the Vatican embassy no longer will have to pay the annual lease on its present location, which he estimated at between $600,000 and $1 million. Officials say once it’s operational, the new facility will have separate signage and a separate entrance on Rome’s Via Salustina, marking it as a distinct diplomatic operation.

Glendon disputed the notion that the United States ought to cite what other countries have done as precedent, saying the importance of the relationship merits its own location and profile.

“Both [the U.S. and the Vatican] are global actors,” she said. “The Holy See’s sphere of concern, like that of the United States, is worldwide.”

Diaz suggested that since much of the blowback is coming from representatives of Republican presidents, it may have a partisan edge.

“We need to look at the evidence and the facts rather than politicizing this move,” Diaz said.

Nicholson disputed that charge, noting that his initial objections were lodged under the Bush administration while a fellow Republican was the ambassador to Italy.

“There’s no partisan motivation on my part,” Nicholson said. “I’ve served there, I know the importance of this post, and I know the damage that will be done.”

Although the State Department official described the decision as a fait accompli, Nicholson said he still hopes it can be reversed.

“They like to use the term ‘reset’ in talking about diplomacy, and I think this is something that can be ‘reset,’ ” he said, saying he’s had conversations with political leaders “on both sides of the aisle” in an effort to roll it back.

The U.S. Embassy to the Holy See also maintains an official residence for the ambassador, a picturesque 19th-century building known as the Villa Richardson rented from the American Academy on Rome’s Janiculum Hill, which is often used for receptions and other events. Officials say there’s no plan to change that residence.

Former Ambassador Frank Shakespeare, the only other living former U.S. envoy to the Vatican, did not respond to a request for comment on this article.

[John L. Allen Jr. is NCR senior correspondent. His email address is jallen@ncronline.org [2]. Follow him on Twitter: @JohnLAllenJr [3].]

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… Continue What You are Doing ( ) ! …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,May 15th,2013

… It was the praiseworthy blessing from one history – maker to another . Berta Soler , the putative leader of the Ladies in White (Cuba) was able to travel for the first time , courtesy of the government ‘ s new announced policy allowing Cuban citizens to travel somewhat freely for the first time . And , Boy , has she .

.. In this case , she made it to Rome , to the Vatican , for a Papal Audience with another history maker , the Catholic Church ‘ s Pope Francis I . His Holiness , who is Argentinian by birth , does not often single out individuals after any Papal function . Yet he did , specifically , with Berta , and blessed her . Better yet , he blessed her , and told her (Siga Adelante) to continue on with her holy work .

.. Berta Soler, 48, and another member of the “Women in White”, Clara Maria del Valle, both dressed in white, waited with anticipation,

.berta soler & his holiness .. may God Bless them Both !! ...

.berta soler & his holiness .. may God Bless them Both !! …

and when he reached them she spoke rapidly in Spanish. She told him, “We are the ‘Damas de Blanco’ from Cuba, the relatives of hundreds of political prisoners, and we ask for your help, and also for your blessing on us and all the people who are in need in Cuba.”

..Pope Francis listened attentively, smiled, held her hand, gave his blessing and told her, “Siga adelante!”  “Continue as you are doing!”

.. It was what she and the “Women in White” had long wanted to hear from the Pope. “It was a great day for me, we – the “Damas de Blanco” have always had great faith in Christ, and now it is doubled. ”

.. May God Bless Them Both !! ..

[h/t to BabaluBlog.com and IlStampa. (English edition)]

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… the Favourites for the Papacy …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,March 11th,2013

Timothy Dolan, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Ne...

Timothy Dolan, Roman Catholic Archbishop of New York

 

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Cardinals from around the world gather this week in a conclave to elect a new pope following the stunning resignation of Benedict XVI. In the secretive world of the Vatican, there is no way to know who is in the running, and history has yielded plenty of
surprises. Yet several names have come up repeatedly as strong contenders. Here is a look at
who they are:

{courtesy of the AP} [with some of my own added]

CARDINAL ANGELO SCOLA [Italy] Archbishop of Milan
He is known as a doctrinal conservative who is also at ease quoting Jack McCarthy.

CARDINAL ODILO SCHERER [Brazil Archbishop of Sao Paulo

At the relatively young age of 63, he enthusiastically embraces all new methods for reaching believers, while staying true to a conservative line of Roman Catholic doctrine and hardline positions on social issues such as rejection of same-sex marriage.

CARDINAL MARC OUELLET [Canada] Archbishop of Montreal(?)
He possesses the qualities that make the 68-year-old popular in Latin America – home to the world’s biggest Catholic population – and among the cardinals who elect the pope have contributed to his poor image in his native Quebec, where ironically he was perceived during his tenure as archbishop as an outsider parachuted in from Rome to reorder his liberal province along conservative lines.

CARDINAL PETER ERDO [Hungary]

Erdo is the son of a deeply religious couple who defied communist repression in Hungary to practice their faith. And if elected pope, the 60-year-old would be the second pontiff to come from eastern Europe – following in the footsteps of the late John Paul II, a Pole who left a great legacy helping to topple communism. A cardinal since 2003, Erdo is an expert on canon law and distinguished university theologian who has also striven to forge close ties to the parish faithful. He is increasingly seen as a compromise candidate if cardinals are unable to rally around some of the more high-profile figures like Scola or Scherer.

CARDINAL PETER TURKSON [Ghana]

Often cast as the social conscience of the church, Ghana’s Turkson is viewed by many as the top African contender for pope.

 

English: Cardinal Peter Turkson Nederlands: Ka...

Cardinal Peter Turkson

 

CARDINAL TIMOTHY DOLAN [USA]

Dolan, the 63-year-old archbishop of New York, is an upbeat, affable defender of Catholic

orthodoxy, and a well-known religious figure in the United States.  But scholars question

whether his charisma and experience are enough for a real shot at succeeding Benedict.

CARDINAL LEONARDO SANDRI [Italy]

{originally Argentinian} Leonardo Sandri, 69, is a Vatican insider who has run the day-to-day operations of the global church’s vast bureaucracy and roamed the world as a papal diplomat.  The jovial diplomat has been knighted in a dozen countries, and the church
he is attached to as cardinal is Rome’s exquisite, baroque San Carlo ai Catinari.

CARDINAL LUIS ANTONIO TAGLE [Philipines]

Asia’s most prominent Roman Catholic leader knows how to reach the masses: He sings on stage, preaches on TV, brings churchgoers to laughter and tears with his homilies. And he’s on Facebook. But the 55-year-old Filipino’s best response against the tide of secularism,
clergy sex abuse scandals and rival-faith competition could be his reputation for humility.

His compassion for the poor and unassuming ways have impressed followers in his homeland, Asia’s largest Catholic nation, and church leaders in the Vatican. Tagle’s chances are considered remote, as many believe that Latin America or Africa – with their faster-growing
Catholic flocks – would be more logical choices if the papal electors look beyond Europe.

CARDINAL CHRISTOPH SCHOENBORN [Austria]

Schoenborn is a soft-spoken conservative who is ready to listen to those espousing reform.

That profile could appeal to fellow cardinals looking to elect a pontiff with the widest-possible appeal to the world’s 1 billion Catholics. His Austrian nationality may be his biggest disadvantage: Electors may be reluctant to choose another German speaker as a successor to Benedict. A man of low tolerance for the child abuse scandals roiling the church, Schoenborn, 68, himself was elevated to the upper echelons of the Catholic hierarchy after his predecessor resigned 18 years ago over accusations that he was a pedophile.

CARDINAL MALCOLM RANJITH [Sri Lanka]

Benedict XVI picked the Sri Lankan Ranjith to return from Colombo to the Vatican to oversee the church’s liturgy and rites in one of his first appointments as pope. The choice of Ranjith in 2005 rewarded a strong voice of tradition – so rigid that some critics regard it even as backward-looking. Ranjith in 2010 was named Sri Lanka’s second cardinal in history.

There are many strikes against a Ranjith candidacy – Sri Lanka, for example, has just 1.3 million Catholics, less than half the population of Rome. But the rising influence of the developing world, along with the 65-year-old’s strong conservative credentials, helps keep his name in the mix of papal contenders.

CARDINAL ANDRES RODRIGUEZ MARADIAGA [Honduras]

 

To many, Maradiaga embodies the activist wing of the Roman Catholic Church as an outspoken campaigner of human rights, a watchdog on climate change and advocate of international debtelief for poor nations. Others, however, see the 70-year-old Honduran as a reactionary in the other direction: Described as sympathetic to a coup in his homeland and stirringaccusations of anti-Semitism for remarks that some believe suggested Jewish interests encouraged extra media attention on church sex abuse scandals. Maradiaga, the archbishop of Tegucigalpa, is among a handful of Latin American prelates considered to have a credible shot at the papacy.
CARDINAL SEAN PATRICK O’MALLEY [USA]

As archbishop of Boston, O’Malley has faced the fallout from the church’s abuse scandals for nearly a decade. The fact he is mentioned at all as a potential papal candidate is testament to his efforts to bring together an archdiocese at the forefront of the abuse disclosures.

Like other American cardinals, the papal prospects for the 68-year-old O’Malley suffer because of the accepted belief that many papal electors oppose the risk of having U.S. global policies spill over, even indirectly, onto the Vatican’s image. O’Malley is among the most Internet-savvy members of the conclave.

Cardinal Polycarp Pengo, 69, of Tanzania.

As the elected president of the Symposium of Episcopal Conferences of Africa and Madagascar (SECAM), he has the respect of his peers. He’s also been adept at defending Benedict’s ban on contraceptives in the fight against AIDS without aggravating the argument.

He has, however, called homosexuality one of the most heinous sins on Earth. “Homosexuality is craziness,” he said. “How can people of the same sex have a sexual relationship … they are meeting to do what?”

He has no experience in Rome.

Cardinal Robert Sarah, 67, of Guinea.

Unlike Pengo, Sarah has had considerable Rome experience as the No. 2 man in the powerful Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples (officially known as Propaganda Fide), and is the current very hands-on president of the Vatican’s charitable agency, Cor Unum.

He’s had a meteoric rise through the church hierarchy, being named an archbishop at 34. He has said that homosexuality, abortion and contraception to be antithetical to African culture.

The Asians:

Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith, 65, of Sri Lanka.

Ranjith has extensive Vatican experience, including as a papal diplomat.

 

English: Malcolm Cardinal Ranjith

Malcolm Cardinal Ranjith

 

He has a solid

pastoral background, having served as archbishop of Colombo since 2005.

He’s also considered to be on the church’s ultra-conservative fringe.

Cardinal Luis Antonio Tagle, 55, of the Philippines.

He is three years younger than John Paul II was when he was elected pope, which means he

could be around for a long time. It’s the biggest obstacle to him being given the nod this

time.

He is a hugely popular, charismatic and powerful communicator, a scholar, a staunch defender of the poor, an environmentalist, and a proponent of the church taking a strong stance against clerical sex abuse. As John Allen, columnist for the U.S. National Catholic
Reporter, says of Tagle: “When he talks, people listen.”

He also has strong pastoral experience but no Vatican experience.

Cardinal Norberto Rivera Carrera, 70, of Mexico.

Carrera has been such a strong critic of globalization and political corruption that the Mexican government threatened to pass a law forbidding priests from commenting on politics.

He has criticized the U.S. media for exaggerated attacks on the church over sex abuse by clergy. He also has been close to conservative religious movements such as the disgraced Legionaries of Christ (whose leader was instructed to retire to a life of prayer and penitence after being accused of sexual misconduct).

In 2003, he declared that Christians should not consult horoscopes because the only star that truly influences human destiny is the star of Bethlehem.

He has no Vatican experience.

Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, 70, of Honduras.

He’s Cardinal Cool, tall, handsome, a trained pilot who plays both the piano and the saxophone, speaks six languages, is charismatic and in demand as a public speaker.

He’s shown sympathy for liberation theology, attacked the neo-colonialism of global capitalism and represented the Vatican at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

He’s also said any Catholic politician who supports abortion is automatically excommunicated.

In 2002, he caused an uproar in the U.S. by comparing media criticism of the church’s sex-abuse scandals to persecution by Hitler and Stalin, and suggested the U.S. media was trumpeting the scandals in order to distract attention from the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

These views brought angry reaction from sex abuse victims and the Jewish Anti-Defamation League.

 

 

 

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