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… A Rather Appropriate Photo [#JailKate] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,August 23rd,2013

.. Kaitlyn Hunt is right where she belongs . in Jail . no where else .

.. and her lawyer is an idiot . Screw the lawyer statement .

Anyone who watched Tuesday’s hearing in the Kaitlyn Hunt case knows two things: “Free Kate” is guilty as hell, and her lawyer is an

... right where she belongs !! ...

… right where she belongs !! …


Let’s admit that even a good lawyer would have difficulty representing a client as guilty as Kaitlyn Hunt. Bad cases require bad arguments, and if the guilty client insists on fighting the case all the way to trial, any attorney who accepts the fee is going to be obliged to look like an incompetent idiot from time to time.


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… #freeKate is #deadMeat …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,August 20th,2013

… once you pick up this piece from , written by Rob McCain , and then you will understand that Katelyn Hunt is definitely going to jail . She will have company . More than likely , her mother will be there , with her , in almost as much trouble as she is …

Prosecutors Withdraw Plea Deal for Accused Lesbian Sex Offender



A plea bargain offered to accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt has been withdrawn after Florida prosecutors say the teenage lesbian violated a judge’s order not to have contact with her underage victim. WPEC-TV reported that Hunt could be arrested today, and that the 19-year-old former cheerleader’s mother Kelley Hunt Smith may also face charges in connection with the case.

Hunt was a senior at Sebastian River High School when she was arrested in February on charges that she had sex with a 14-year-old freshman girl who was a basketball teammate. Hunt was charged with two felonies; the age of consent in Florida is 16. Last week, state attorney Bruce Colton‘s office filed a complaint that Hunt, who has been free on $5,000 bond awaiting trial, violated the no-contact order that was a condition of her pretrial release.

Prosecutors say Kaitlyn Hunt, 19, violated bond by continuing 'intimate contact' with victim.

Prosecutors say Kaitlyn Hunt, 19, violated bond by continuing ‘intimate contact’ with victim.

According to a stunning 4-page petition Colton’s office filed with Circuit Court Judge Robert Pegg, Hunt sent more than 20,000 text messages to the younger girl after the no-contact order was issued, and also sent the victim “lewd” photos and an explicit video of herself  “masturbating by rubbing her vagina with her fingers while moaning.” Hunt also arranged secret meetings for “intimate contact” with the younger girl, now 15, prosecutors allege, and say that these violations of the no-contact order continued as recently as two weeks ago. In addition, the prosecution petition quoted messages from both Hunt and her mother urging the victim to conceal their ongoing communication.


A hearing on the prosecutor’s complaint has been scheduled for Tuesday, but Scott T. Smith of Palm Beach CBS affiliate WPEC-TV reported Monday “Hunt faces being returned to jail as soon as today, and her mom may also face charges.” A plea bargain offered to Hunt last month has now been withdrawn, ABC affiliate WPBF-TV reports:

The state recently offered Hunt a second plea deal that would have kept her out of jail and not required her to register as a sex offender. But that was before the new information came to light, and prosecutors pulled the offer Monday morning.

Violating the no-contact order could mean that not only will Hunt have to wait in jail until her case goes to trial, but she and her mother could also face charges of contempt of court and obstruction of justice.

Teenage lesbian Kaitlyn Hunt was a popular cheerleader in Florida.

Teenage lesbian Kaitlyn Hunt was a popular cheerleader in Florida.

The Palm Beach Post reports that “with no plea deal being offered Hunt is facing felony charges, jail time, and could become a registered sex offender if convicted. A judge could order her arrest at any moment, but attorneys say it is highly unlikely she would be arrested before her hearing Tuesday afternoon.”

The Hunt case gained nationwide media attention in May, when Hunt rejected the first plea bargain offered by prosecutors. More than 300,000 people signed an online petition urging that the charges against her be dropped, after her parents claimed that Hunt was the victim of anti-gay discrimination. In a Facebook post, Hunt’s mother defended Kaitlyn’s involvement with a 14-year-old, saying the girls were “experimenting with their sexuality … They are teens, it’s healthy and normal.” In that May 17 Facebook post, Kaitlyn Hunt’s mother named the parents of the younger girl nine times, denouncing them as “bigoted, religious [zealots] … full of hate and bigotry” for opposing their daughter’s involvement with Kaitlyn, who was then 18.

Accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt is comforted by her father at a May press conference.

Accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt is comforted by her father at a May press conference.

According to an Indian River County Sheriff’s Office affidavit in the case, Hunt began having sex with the victim in December: “The first time occurred in the bathroom of the W wing at Sebastian High School. [The 14-year-old] stated that they sent text messages to each other to meet in the bathroom. [The 14-year-old] and Kaitlyn went into a bathroom stall and started kissing. Kaitlyn then took [the 14-year-old’s] pants off and put her finger inside of [the 14-year-old’s] vagina.” According to the affidavit by Detective Jeremy Shepherd, on Jan. 4, the 14-year-old ran away and spent the night at Hunt’s house, where the two teens “put their fingers inside of each other’s vaginas, put their mouths on each other’s vaginas, and both of them used a vibrator on each other to insert it in each other’s vaginas.”

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… I guess that #FreeKate has not gotten the Message …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,August 20th,2013

.. it should be #jailKate !

.. for the uninitiated , Kate refers to Katelyn Hunt , who is an 18-yr-old young adult . She was busted for having lesbian sex with a 14-year-old . She did not take an offered plea bargain , instead deciding (along with her family) to turn her cause into a cause celebre . Gross !

..Florida law is clear that anyone 18 or older having sex with someone 15 or younger has committed a crime. This crime is “usually” prosecuted for the same reason that Kate Hunt is being prosecuted: Parents of the minor victim discover that their young teenager is sexually involved with an adult, object to this involvement, and call the cops.

Will anyone argue that this law is unreasonable?

Is it wrong for parents to be empowered, with the law on their side, to say, “Hey, leave my kid alone, you creep, or I’ll call the cops”?

..Let us stipulate that there are probably lots of 18- and 19-year-old guys who may be sexually interested in much younger teenage girls.

.. This is the typical scenario: A girl who is physically mature but not yet 16 becomes involved with a guy in his late teens or early 20s and this involvement is entirely voluntary — indeed, often quite enthusiastic — on the part of the girl who, in the eyes of the law, is the victim of a crime because she is incapable of legal consent.

.. Maybe that seems crazy to you. You may say, “But this girl is willing and eager to have sex at 14 or 15, why criminalize this guy, only four or five years older than her, for giving her what she wants?”

.. The answer is that this is a minor dependent upon, and under the authority of, her parents, who have a duty to supervise her behavior — to make sure she brushes her teeth and does her homework and looks both ways before crossing the street — for her own good. And if the parents of 14-year-old Heather Hotpants don’t want their daughter taking a ride on the one-eyed love monster with 19-year-old Billy the Boner, they are empowered by law to prevent it.

Maybe you think this kind of parental empowerment is a bad thing, but if you don’t have a teenage daughter, well, shut the hell up.

Parents have duties and parents have rights, and if we don’t want total sexual anarchy — horny hoodlums cruising the middle-school parking lot in search of some easy action — we’d better by God stand on the side of parents trying to protect their daughters.

As it is, however, Florida’s age of consent is 16. This law is by no means secret and evidence in this case indicates that Kaitlyn Hunt knew damned well her involvement with a 14-year-old was illegal.

                                                WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT ‘JAILBAIT’?

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… the House from Hell has been torn Down …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,August 7th,2013

.. i am referring to the house on Seymour Avenue in Cleveland , Ohio , where those 3 young women were held captive .

.. As a part of the plea bargain , Ariel Castro was required to deed over his house (the captive house) to Cuyahoga County [the Ohio county where Cleveland is located ] as a part of his criminal settlement . The house and land on which it sits were deeded over to the County Land Bank .

.. The County Land Bank can use this land in sale or trade for other land , and assemble tracts of land for redevelopment . It could be for retail , commercial , industrial , or residential . It is also environnmentally treated (remediated) , so that the land is commerically viable again . The specific land on Seymour Avenue will , I bet , be turned into a small public mini – park , where children can play , and bring joy once more to the area .

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… At last , these Women can be at Peace …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,July 26th,2013

.. Amanda Berry . Gina DeJesus . Michelle Knight . these young women have been through what can only be described as the depths of unspeakable hell . Being taken captive is bad enough . Being held captive for 10 years , or more , continual rape , sexual assault , and even murder ? My God , what kind of subhuman creature could perpetrate such a thing ?

.. Angel Castro , that is who . He took these young ladies , and altered their lives , forever . He took them prisoner , tortured them , raped them , assaulted them , and took them on a hellish journey . How could he do such a thing ? Yet , he did .

.. Their families never gave up hope that they were alive . They pampleted their neighbourhoods . They marched . They garnered as much publicity as they humanly could . Yet , nothing . Then , all of a sudden . Bang .

.. All of a sudden , with some help from local people on the west side of Cleveland , these women (now adults) regained their freedom . Yet , it was not just the three of them . It was now 4 . The rapist Castro had fathered a child with Ms. Berry , who is now about 6 or 7 years old .

.. Thankfully , the people of my home community have been extraordinary generous . Much money has been donated towards the futures of all three young women , and the young child . However , the money can only help make up for part of their suffering . The news from the justice system today hopefully can help go a very long way towards giving them a sense of peace of mind that they so richly deserve .

.. Angel Castro will never see the outside of a prison , ever again . He reached a plea bargain , that , takes the possible death penalty off of the table . I am not totally thrilled with the plea bargain , but I do understand it . More important is the peace of mind of the 3 (now 4) victims , so that they can begin the process of going on with their lives .

.. I pray that Amanda , Michelle , Gina , and Amanda ‘ s little girl can find the peace that they so richly deserve . And that they can find a future that is of their choice .

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