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… Gee , This is “Just Dandy” …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,March 31st,2013

… this is from a CybercastNewsService(CNS) piece from Friday , March 29th , and i quoted the relevent section , to make my point(s) …

.. the header is “Shorter Lines, Simpler Ballots: Obama-Appointed Panel Seeks to

‘Improve Voters’ Experience at the Polls‘ ..”

…The panel, to be co-chaired by former Rep. Bob Bauer (attorney for the Obama campaign) and Ben Ginsburg (attorney for the Romney campaign), is “advisory in nature,” and it must submit a final report within six months of its first public meeting.   ..The executive order says the commission “shall identify best practices and otherwise make recommendations to promote the efficient administration of elections in order to ensure that all eligible voters have the opportunity to cast their ballots without undue delay, and to improve the experience of voters facing other obstacles in casting their ballots, such as members of the military, overseas voters, voters withdisabilities, and voters with limited English proficiency.”

In doing so, the Commission is directed to consider the following:   — the number, location, management, operation, and design of polling places;   — the training, recruitment, and number of poll workers;   — voting accessibility for uniformed and overseas voters;   — the efficient management of voter rolls and poll books;   — voting machine capacity and technology;   — ballot simplicity and voter education;   — voting accessibility for individuals with disabilities, limited English proficiency, and other special needs;   — management of issuing and processing provisional ballots in the polling place on Election Day;   — the issues presented by the administration of absentee ballot programs;   — the adequacy of contingency plans for natural disasters and other emergencies that may disrupt elections; and   — other issues related to the efficient administration of elections that the Co-Chairs agree are necessary and appropriate to the Commission’s work.   President Obama first mentioned election reform in his 2013 State of the Union Address:   “We must all do our part to make sure our God-given rights are protected here at home.

That includes our most fundamental right as citizens: the right to vote. When any Americans – no matter where they live or what their party – are denied that right simply because they can’t wait for five, six, seven hours just to cast their ballot, we are betraying our ideals. That’s why, tonight, I’m announcing a non-partisan commission to improve the voting experience in America. And I’m asking two long-time experts in the field, who’ve recently served as the top attorneys for my campaign and for Governor Romney’s campaign, to lead it. We can fix this, and we will. The American people demand it. And so does our democracy.”

and , to think all about it … [-] .. have not we done this all before , folks .. we keep doing this schtuff , and reforming our voting laws .. and not giving it a chance to work …

[-] .. management of elections .. is generally best left to the states . The federales only should step in when they absolutely have to [the VRA , for example] …

[-] .. mgmt of poll workers .. is a royal pain . It is a one day thing , and getting people to serve for a one – day job is never easy ..

[-] .. tech improvements .. race ahead .. they should be implemented in elections and voting with great care ..

[-] .. initiative warfare and ballot simplicity .. ballots will never really be as

simple as they once were , especially with initiatives , and tax levies , and .. [-] .. timing of primaries , and military ballots .. the primaries need to be moved back some , to better accomodate military balloting , and the mails .. [-] .. mgmt & issuance of provisional ballots .. should be stringent , due to fraud , and perceived fraud .. [-] .. yes , fraud is a problem , dummies ! .. and , voter i.d. is a necessity .. [-] .. voter id is needed ! .. [-] .. Obama ‘ s involvement is hypocritical , as usual .. [-] .. USCCR will muck it up .. the Us Cmsn on Civil Rights is now under control of the left – wing loons . They will mess things up , and try to set things up for the courts .. [-] .. set – up for the courts .. the cmsn and the USCCR will try their best to set the plate for the activist judges to try to interfere in the proper admin of elections …

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… Voter I.D. , once again …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,January 31st,2013

my take – the voter id issue needs to be addressed . the consistent horsing around on it is getting to be ridiculous .

We as voters deserve to have consistent voting laws . We also deserve to have voting laws that make sense , that act to preserve people ‘ s rights , and act to prevent fraud . politicians , and in this case , state legislators , will mess around , until pressure is brought to bear …

Also , on the conservative side , the potential of an initiative or referendum to implement a conservative – oriented voting bill , or even constitutional amendment , has to be brought to bear , in order to get the legislature ‘ s attention , in order that they will get off their butts , and pass something more to our liking …


Contrary to popular belief , voter fraud is real , and is a problem . a serious problem , no , not now . but it is a problem that needs to be addressed . and not in a politically correct fashion ! …

Ohio House may again debate divisive voter photo ID issue

Robert Higgs, The Plain Dealer [01312013]

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Legislation to require voters to show a photo ID at

polling places, a divisive issue leading up to the 2012 election in Ohio

and across the nation, appears ready to make a return appearance in the

Ohio House.


Rep. Mike Dovilla, chair of the House Policy and Legislative Oversight

Committee, says there is interest among House Republicans for such

legislation. He doubts he will sponsor it, but acknowledged it likely

would go through his committee.


“I suspect that there remains interest in a bill of that nature,”

Dovilla, a Berea Republican, said Wednesday. “We think there is broad

support in the public.”


Similar legislation moved through the House in 2011 . It required

voters show a photo identification at polling places to verify their identity. The acceptable forms of ID were driver’s licenses , state

issued ID cards, passports and military identification cards.


In Ohio, as in other states where the issue was debated, supporters

touted the laws to ensure voting integrity and thwart voter fraud.

Opponents made equally passionate cries of voter suppression.


Ultimately, the photo ID requirement was removed last year to avoid a state referendum.


Republicans hold strong majorities in both the Ohio House and Senate and

could push through legislation now. But if it is reintroduced, expect

hot debate.


“I think the broad approach toward election reform is that you want a

system where there’s the greatest possible integrity,” Dovilla said.

“There’s nary a thing in society that you can do where you don’t need to

show ID of some sort.”


Ensuring integrity of the ballot and creating a barrier to voter fraud

is important, he said. “The onus, I think, is on those who oppose this.”


Democrats are quick to counter. Requiring people to have an official ID

creates a burden that can keep some, particularly poorer voters, from

being able to vote, they say. They liken it to a tax on voting.


“We would have very serious concerns about such a proposal,” said Rep.

Kathleen Clyde a Kent Democrat and, a member of Policy and Legislative

Oversight Committee.


“An ID requirement is kind of a veiled way of having a poll tax, where

you’re requiring people to pay to have a photo ID,” Clyde said. Getting

a state-approved ID could be a financial and logistical problem for the

poor if they have to pay for documents needed to get an ID and have to

find transportation to proper offices.”


Dovilla suggested that the ID could be free for those found to be

indigent. “We want to make sure people have access to this.”


Clyde counters that people should not have to prove they are poor to be

able to vote. “Is that the process we want for our elections?”


Rep. Teresa Fedor, a Toledo Democrat, disputed the ballot integrity issue.


“There’s no outrageous amount of fraud,” she said. “It’s just a

ginned-up issue.


“You just get tired of beating back these non issues.”


Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted did not support the photo ID

requirement in the 2011 bill. His spokesman said Wednesday that Husted

would not comment on the issue now until specific legislation is



Dovilla expects that likely would be soon.


“Election bills tend to move in the first year of a two-year session

like this,” he said. “You don’t want to get into the guts of the

election cycle and then have people from either side saying you’re

trying to move the goalposts.”

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