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… I believe that Boehner has the Votes …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,October 7th,2013

.. what am I saying ?

.. first , Pelosi does not have the votes . The DemoCraps only have about 200 members in the current House , and their numbers are unlikely to go up all that much . Then , you do figure that the Dems have about 25 to 30 moderates left in their caucus .

.. That many ? Yes , that many . I would be willing to bet as many as 10 to 15 of them will not vote for a CR , possibly 20 . That means (since 218 is a majority) , the DemoCraps need nearly 30 votes . Yes , nearly 30 votes . Why that many .

218 – (202 – 15) = 31 ; or 218 – 187 = 31

Official portrait of United States House Speak...

Official portrait of United States House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio). (Photo credit: Wikipedia)


.. 31 votes . It will take that many votes to make it . it is the votes of the moderates who vote against the CR , plus the votes to reach a majority , plus a 1 or 2 vote safety margin (considering the machinations a House majority can pull) ..

.. why ?

[-] there are not that many moderates in the House GOP anymore . There are some , but not many .

[-] they are loyal enough to Boehner to not cross him on a vote that is this important ,

[-] a number of them are or have been in leadership positions , such as subcommittee chairman or committee chairman . They want to be again , and realize crossing a sitting Speaker of the House is not a way to get back into that position . Especially since , these days , the Speaker appoints (with caucus approval , which is ususally a formality) the committee and subcommittee chairs .

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… Hilarious ! [Who to Negotiate With ?!] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,October 6th,2013

this one is [h/t Legal Insurrection] , where Congressman Doug Lamborn [R-Co] is talking ] on the House floor . He talks about who POTUS will negotiate with (see the picture) , and who he will not …

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… Interesting Take [on the Shutdown] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,October 1st,2013

.. this comes from , of all people , Bob Woodward . He made an appearance on Morning Joe on pMSNBC on September 30th , and made the following …

Woodward: If Shutdown or Debt Ceiling Causes Economic Crisis, It’s on the ‘President’s Head’

[link] — to video

Bob Woodward of The Washington Post said if there is a “downturn or a collapse” resulting from the failure of CR or debt ceiling

English: Barack Obama delivers a speech at the...

English: Barack Obama delivers a speech at the University of Southern California (Video of the speech) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

negotiations it will be on President Obama’s “head” Monday on Morning Joe.

Woodward noted he respected President Obama’s objection to negotiating on the debt ceiling, but criticized the administration for failing to initiate any dialogue that could result in a deal on funding the government.

“It’s on the president’s head, he’s got to lead, he’s got to talk” Woodward said:

BOB WOODWARD: Can I enter in here just for a moment because I think it’s a good question. And there is something the president could be doing. He said he will not negotiate on the debt ceiling. A reasonable position. “I will not be blackmailed” he said. But he should be talking. They should be meeting, discussing this, because as I think Steve Ratner showed earlier, the American economy is at stake and the president, if there is a downturn or a collapse or whatever could happen here that’s bad, it’s going to be on his head. The history books are going to say, we had an economic calamity in the Presidency of Barack Obama. Speaker Boehner, indeed, is playing a role on this. Go back to the Great Depression in the 1930s. I’ll bet no one can name who was the speaker of the House at the time. Henry Thomas Rainey. He’s not in the history book it’s on the president’s head. He’s got to lead. He’s got to talk. And the absence of discussion here, I think, is baffling element.

LEC here again — this is an interesting take from a so – called leading light in the media . You can say what you want about Clinton and his politics (he was superb at it) , but at least he negotiated , and knew when  to move , and when not to . In a case like this , it requires two to tango . The G.O.P. has moved enough , for now . It is now up to POTUS to get the lead out of his butt and get moving …

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… Ah , D.O.D. , What you are Doing is Circumventing State Law …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,August 14th,2013

.. in the state in which a base is located .

.. In Ohio , where I am , a base of this size , where there is likely to be such a gay soldier / airman population is at Wright – Patterson Air Force Base . Wright – Pat (for short) is huge , with many thousands of officers and airmen and airwomen . It also has detachments from the other services . These folks , though , have a problem .

.. For them , they have wither to live on base , or within a reasonable distance of the base . That means about 30 to 40 miles . Down there (Wright – Pat is downstate , just northeast of the City of Dayton , actually in Fairborn) , that means those folks live entirely within the state of Ohio . Where , matter of fact , that so – called “Same Sex Marriage” is both illegal , as well as unconstitutional . Huge Oops !

.. Somehow , I do not think that even a significant chunk of the Senate (in Democratic hands , for now) , much less saying the House (which is GOP – controlled) are going to be too thrilled with such a stunt . Circumventing local laws , where marriage is governed , and allowed servicemen and servicewomen to abrogate those local laws is not going to go over very well .

.. You might think why I picked on Wright – Pat ? It is , by far , the largest military base in the state of Ohio . No other one is really in its size class . Also , one other factor . Guess in whose congressional district parts of the base are located ?

.. John Boehner . Yea , Speaker of the House John Boehner . Whoops .

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… His Royal Preachyness pitches a Failure [ObamaCrapCare] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,July 18th,2013

.. health insurance costs spiraling …

.. choices falling , or non – existent …

.. taxes bound to go up …

..With his healthcare reform under attack and Americans increasingly skeptical of  its benefits, President Barack Obama went on the offensive Thursday, announcing  the program will put $500 million into consumers’ pockets this summer and  claiming it has lowered insurance rates by $3.4 billion .
.. Obama, flanked by a dozen people who have received  rebates or have seen their insurance rates go down, estimated the average check  would be about $100, evidence he claimed showed the program is working.
..The president’s speech, his third address solely to tout Obamacare this year,  signals a renewed effort to promote the controversial law as it faces a new round of withering  attacks from Republicans who on Wednesday held two votes to repeal key  provisions of the law.

Republicans were quick to respond on  Thursday. House Speaker John Boehner insisted the GOP would continue  fighting Obamacare.

“The law has to go,” Boehner said after the president’s speech, vowing  to continue to work to “fully repeal the president’s healthcare law in its  entirety once and for all.” “Fairness is a basic tenet of our society,” Boehner said  at a press briefing Thursday. “And it is the bare minimum the American people  should expect from their government. But too often under this president, they  aren’t seeing it.”

Obama accused the  Republicans of playing politics by continuing to attack Obamacare.
“I  mention all this because [Wednesday], despite all the evidence that the law is  working the way it is supposed to for middle-class Americans, Republicans in the  House of Representatives voted for nearly the 40th time to dismantle it,” Obama  said.

“We’ve got a lot of important work to do,” Obama said. “Yet  instead, we are refighting these old battles. Sometimes I just try to figure out  why. Maybe they think it’s good politics. But part of our job here is to not  always think about politics.”

House GOP leaders seized on the Obama  administration’s surprise move last week  to delay the start of an employer  mandate to provide health  insurance or pay hefty fines. The White House rolled back the start from  2014 to 2015 to give businesses more time to comply with the law.

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… What I think the House Could Do [One Possibility]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,July 15th,2013

What the House Should Do

.. Now that S.744 has passed the Senate, and the baton has been passed to the lower chamber, the House of Representatives has been afforded a significant opportunity to change the debate on immigration reform. It is imperative that it takes it.

.. The fundamental problem with the bill is what it does with legal immigration. Instead of reforming our Ted Kennedy-inspired, irrational 60s-era immigration regime, it perpetuates it and even makes it worse. Thus, the Bill authorizes somewhere between 30 million and 60 million new legal immigrants over the next ten years, 90% of them low-skill and low-wage.This is exactly what it does, once again eschewing merit-based immigration for a family-based system and privileging low-skilled immigration uber alles.

.. In responding to the Senate, the first thing that the House should do is to split up the issues. Republicans should insist that they are presented with one bill that deals with the border and the illegal population, and another bill (at  least) that covers legal reform. There is no reason whatsoever why advocates of amnesty should have to sign on to sweeping legal reform, and there is no reason whatsoever why those who want to change the legal system should have to acquiesce with border measures that they dislike. Immigration is a problem, but is not a crisis in the sense that the invasion of Pearl Harbor was a crisis. Contrary to the cries of some, America has the time to debate properly measures that will define who joins the polity over the next two decades and more. It should take that time.

If I had carte blanche, I would have the House start over on the legal side.

. There are a few good things in the Senate bill — the abolition of the Green Card lottery among them. But it fails to bring immigration law into line with what, in my experience, Americans think that immigration law is. And, worse, it builds on a 1965 law that was deeply unpopular at the time and that has done precisely what its advocates swore blind that it would not. The House should put together
a bill — or, better, a series of bills — that would, among other things, abolish the green card lottery, limit family-based immigration to spouses and children,  greatly increase high-skilled visas, institute a limited Bracero-style temporary worker  program, require English proficiency for permanent residency (not visas), and feature a modest version of the DREAM Act . Most important, it would invert the
balance between skills-based and family-based immigration in the favor of the  former. And it would make it clear that the total number of legal immigrants  should at the very least remain the same and should certainly not increase,  possibly drawing any amnesty visas granted to illegals from an overall total.

.. Having done these things, it should send the bill to the Senate for approval. If  the Senate refuses, so be it. The status quo is better than is S.744, and  Americans appear barely to care about the issue. Immigration reform is  neccesary, but not so necessary that anything will do. John Boehner will do well  if he remembers that.

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… I do not Think So , Luis (immigration reform) …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,July 4th,2013

.. there are sometimes that the DemoCraps can be so abrasive , arrogant , and disgusting . Here is one of them  . Luis Gutierrez (D-Il) seems to think that the DummyCraps are going to get their way on immigration reform . Don ‘ t be so sure about that , Luis …


Gutierrez: ‘I Have Come to the Conclusion that GOP Majority Has No Understanding’

Official portrait of United States House Speak...

Official portrait of United States House Speaker (R-Ohio). (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

One of the House negotiators on immigration reform said Republicans “cannot stop” a bill from moving forward.

“I have come to the conclusion that the Republican majority in the House of Representatives has no understanding, just does not comprehend the depth, the width, the broadness of the American people’s support for comprehensive immigration reform, and, unfortunately, our movement for immigration reform spent all of its energy, fortunately successfully in getting the bill through the Senate,” Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said on MSNBC.

“…We’re going to be together on this, but so are some pundits on some other TV stations that aren’t quite with the issue in the past,” he continued. “Look, you cannot stop this. And when it is felt, I really believe that you’re going to get a vote of the majority.”

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) intends to meet with his caucus July 10 to gauge “majority of the majority” support for bringing the Senate bill, which passed last week, to the floor.

“Having said that, look, we’re also going to be smart and practical and flexible. We need to give a safe place for Republicans, and there are dozens of them. Like Paul Ryan and like Rubio in the Senate and others that put that bill together, and Paul Ryan who I know is going to help us put it together in the House of Representatives. We need to give them a bipartisan space,” Gutierrez continued in his strategizing.

, member of the United States House of Represe...

Rep Luis Gutierrez (D-Il) , member of the United States House of Representatives. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“So here’s what the speaker says. He says we’re not going to accept the Senate version. We don’t have to accept the Senate version. We can come with a version from the House of Representatives and we can go to conference and we can come out with a bill that the president can probably sign.”

Gutierrez predicted that a conference committee to forge a final bill wouldn’t be “dissimilar in terms of fundamental issues,” such as a path to citizenship for the 11 million estimated illegal immigrants in the country.

“Before the Republicans kind of had an argument. Well, when the Democrats were in charge and Obama was elected president, they didn’t bring about comprehensive. They had their chance and they blew it. And they’re really not that serious about it,” he said.

LEC here — it will be a conservative bill that reaches POTUS ‘ desk . And POTUS will have to live with it . What form that bill will take , as of yet , I am not sure of ,  at this time . Many parts of the HOUSE GOP Caucus are jockeying for position on what they want . But  , the great mass of the caucus , from the most liberal , to the most conservative , are pretty much united on two particular things .

.. One is Amnesty . They aer not wild about it . If there is any chance of them having  to deal with it , then # 2 is an absolute must , and a deal breaker . Border Security must come first . No ifs , ands , or buts about it , and virtually no discretion for

the Administration . Also , likely , another bill to make things permanent , to hold the ObamaCraps feet to the fire .

.. I will tell you this . The Senate immigraion bill is a non – starter in the House . There is far too much discretion given to the Administration . Even more is given to  the Secretary of Homeland Security . With all of the scandals flying around , and the lack of trust , no way will the GOP give the ObamaCraps that much rope with which to hang themselves .

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… “Amnesty” and English …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,July 1st,2013

.. This immigration reform attempts to dissolve the melting pot .

.. Backers of the immigration bill under consideration in the Senate say the legislation encourages illegal aliens to learn English, but that’s apparently not so . They’ve been running ads on conservative talk radio programs insisting that the illegals “must learn English” as a condition of legalization.

.. It figures .

.. The usual suspects, including a group called Americans for a Conservative Direction, backed by establishment Republicans and liberal Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, are peddling this dubious claim. Most backers of immigration reform have opposed efforts to designate English as the official language. These include POTUS . Earlier this month he used his weekly radio address to claim the immigration reform bill “would provide a pathway to earned citizenship for the 11 million individuals who are in this country illegally — a pathway that includes passing a background check, learning English, paying taxes and a penalty.”

..  We are sure he is serious about the “tax” part, but as Breitbart’s Matthew Boyle notes, immigrants are supposed to learn English already under the Immigration and Nationality Act. The Gang of Eight bill actually waters down existing requirements by allowing illegals to qualify for “learning English” status if they sign up for a course , regardless of whether they actually take it. Even if the Gang were serious about the language requirement, it poses a serious  logistical challenge.

.. These people are not all coming from Mexico , from Central America , or from the rest of Latin America . These migrants who might get the proposed amnesty are from

all over the world . That mean language instruction for more than just Spanish speakers , folks . Bringing the entire set of illegals up to fluency in English would require the hiring of thousands of teachers of English as a second language at a cost of millions of dollars.

.. We are a cultural melting pot , merging the best (and , it seems , the worst) of our cultures ., into  one . We are of many faiths , but of one  common language , American English.  It may require a great deal of expense , at first . But , you go the extra mile  , to bring people in from the cold . You help  them to acclimatte  , but voluntarily ., not by force . We all speak our  native tongues , if they are not American English . But we all speak one in  common  . It is not just decency , but dignity  . It is acclimation and cultural fluency  as well as linguistic fuency .

.. The fatal flaw in the Gang of Eight plan is, in fact, its lack of anything encouraging unity; assimilation is an afterthought. Any real reform of the immigration system must take us back to the day we welcomed immigrants and encouraged them to learn our language , our history , our traditions , and our  culture , so they could become independent Americans, rather than wards dependent on the state.

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