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… There are Better Ways to Enforce the Law …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,April 22nd,2014

.. and the ObamaCraps should know better .

.. the ObamaCraps are no shining shield as to the enforcement of the law . Their actions vis-à-vis ObamaCrapCare are example # 1 in the effort …

.. the ObamaCraps have absoluted failed in the effort . Fast and Furious is an abject embarrassment . Not only Americans have died , but many Mexicans have died as a result of the corruption . The ObamaCrap Administration has gravely abused the doctrine of executive privilege in order to protect Administration misconduct . Just how bad can things get ?

.. [h/t — RealClearPolitics]..

.. [link] to Judge Napolitano ‘ s comments ..

.. Judge Napolitano is right . The antics at the Bundy Ranch have crystallized people ‘ s feelings about the government and its conduct ..

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… Uh , Uncle Joe [Biden] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,April 2nd,2014

.. those folks are here illegally .

.. they are not ” undocumented ” immigrants …

.. [h/t — Breitbart.com]..

.. [link] to the blog post ..

.. Wake Up and smell the Coffee , You Idiot !! ..

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… A Rally on the National Mall ?? [ShutDown edition] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,October 9th,2013

.. while the government is closed ? And veterans and visitors of all stripes cannot visit the attractions and memorials that are beloved by all of us …

… from the Washington Examiner
Even though isolated barricades with “closed” signs remained on the National Mall on Tuesday, the setup for the immigration reform rally said otherwise.

A giant stage with lights and an “Immigration Reform Now” banner was set up in the center of the mall, along with three large portable screens.

On one side of the mall, more than 100 porta potties were set up for protesters who will attend the rally today.

As several groups of musicians performed sound checks, a lone National Park Service employee arrived to survey the scene, but referred me to the Park Service communications office and left when I asked her why she was called into work today.

As the Washington Examiner reported Monday, rally organizers said that they would be allowed by the NPS to carry out their protest under their First Amendment rights.

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… Immigration should Increase [Legally] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,August 11th,2013

.. but , it should be legal immigration , not of the illegal variety . If there is going to be an immigration bill , it should take a multiple of forms . Most of which , they should be able to add skilled immigrants , not the low – skilled kind . As well as investors , and STEM (science , technology , engineering , math) . These folks are far more likely to be from nations that are more accepting of conservative ideas and conservative thought .

.. Doing so would eventually , one would hope , choke off the flow of illegals , and limit the family reunifications to immediate family only . These immigrants would be , hopefully , far more likely to be independents , or , better yet , GOP friendly …

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… I do not Think So , Luis (immigration reform) …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,July 4th,2013

.. there are sometimes that the DemoCraps can be so abrasive , arrogant , and disgusting . Here is one of them  . Luis Gutierrez (D-Il) seems to think that the DummyCraps are going to get their way on immigration reform . Don ‘ t be so sure about that , Luis …

[h/t–pjmedia/tatler]

Gutierrez: ‘I Have Come to the Conclusion that GOP Majority Has No Understanding’

Official portrait of United States House Speak...

Official portrait of United States House Speaker (R-Ohio). (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

One of the House negotiators on immigration reform said Republicans “cannot stop” a bill from moving forward.

“I have come to the conclusion that the Republican majority in the House of Representatives has no understanding, just does not comprehend the depth, the width, the broadness of the American people’s support for comprehensive immigration reform, and, unfortunately, our movement for immigration reform spent all of its energy, fortunately successfully in getting the bill through the Senate,” Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) said on MSNBC.

“…We’re going to be together on this, but so are some pundits on some other TV stations that aren’t quite with the issue in the past,” he continued. “Look, you cannot stop this. And when it is felt, I really believe that you’re going to get a vote of the majority.”

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) intends to meet with his caucus July 10 to gauge “majority of the majority” support for bringing the Senate bill, which passed last week, to the floor.

“Having said that, look, we’re also going to be smart and practical and flexible. We need to give a safe place for Republicans, and there are dozens of them. Like Paul Ryan and like Rubio in the Senate and others that put that bill together, and Paul Ryan who I know is going to help us put it together in the House of Representatives. We need to give them a bipartisan space,” Gutierrez continued in his strategizing.

, member of the United States House of Represe...

Rep Luis Gutierrez (D-Il) , member of the United States House of Representatives. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

“So here’s what the speaker says. He says we’re not going to accept the Senate version. We don’t have to accept the Senate version. We can come with a version from the House of Representatives and we can go to conference and we can come out with a bill that the president can probably sign.”

Gutierrez predicted that a conference committee to forge a final bill wouldn’t be “dissimilar in terms of fundamental issues,” such as a path to citizenship for the 11 million estimated illegal immigrants in the country.

“Before the Republicans kind of had an argument. Well, when the Democrats were in charge and Obama was elected president, they didn’t bring about comprehensive. They had their chance and they blew it. And they’re really not that serious about it,” he said.

LEC here — it will be a conservative bill that reaches POTUS ‘ desk . And POTUS will have to live with it . What form that bill will take , as of yet , I am not sure of ,  at this time . Many parts of the HOUSE GOP Caucus are jockeying for position on what they want . But  , the great mass of the caucus , from the most liberal , to the most conservative , are pretty much united on two particular things .

.. One is Amnesty . They aer not wild about it . If there is any chance of them having  to deal with it , then # 2 is an absolute must , and a deal breaker . Border Security must come first . No ifs , ands , or buts about it , and virtually no discretion for

the Administration . Also , likely , another bill to make things permanent , to hold the ObamaCraps feet to the fire .

.. I will tell you this . The Senate immigraion bill is a non – starter in the House . There is far too much discretion given to the Administration . Even more is given to  the Secretary of Homeland Security . With all of the scandals flying around , and the lack of trust , no way will the GOP give the ObamaCraps that much rope with which to hang themselves .

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… “Amnesty” and English …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,July 1st,2013

.. This immigration reform attempts to dissolve the melting pot .

.. Backers of the immigration bill under consideration in the Senate say the legislation encourages illegal aliens to learn English, but that’s apparently not so . They’ve been running ads on conservative talk radio programs insisting that the illegals “must learn English” as a condition of legalization.

.. It figures .

.. The usual suspects, including a group called Americans for a Conservative Direction, backed by establishment Republicans and liberal Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, are peddling this dubious claim. Most backers of immigration reform have opposed efforts to designate English as the official language. These include POTUS . Earlier this month he used his weekly radio address to claim the immigration reform bill “would provide a pathway to earned citizenship for the 11 million individuals who are in this country illegally — a pathway that includes passing a background check, learning English, paying taxes and a penalty.”

..  We are sure he is serious about the “tax” part, but as Breitbart’s Matthew Boyle notes, immigrants are supposed to learn English already under the Immigration and Nationality Act. The Gang of Eight bill actually waters down existing requirements by allowing illegals to qualify for “learning English” status if they sign up for a course , regardless of whether they actually take it. Even if the Gang were serious about the language requirement, it poses a serious  logistical challenge.

.. These people are not all coming from Mexico , from Central America , or from the rest of Latin America . These migrants who might get the proposed amnesty are from

all over the world . That mean language instruction for more than just Spanish speakers , folks . Bringing the entire set of illegals up to fluency in English would require the hiring of thousands of teachers of English as a second language at a cost of millions of dollars.

.. We are a cultural melting pot , merging the best (and , it seems , the worst) of our cultures ., into  one . We are of many faiths , but of one  common language , American English.  It may require a great deal of expense , at first . But , you go the extra mile  , to bring people in from the cold . You help  them to acclimatte  , but voluntarily ., not by force . We all speak our  native tongues , if they are not American English . But we all speak one in  common  . It is not just decency , but dignity  . It is acclimation and cultural fluency  as well as linguistic fuency .

.. The fatal flaw in the Gang of Eight plan is, in fact, its lack of anything encouraging unity; assimilation is an afterthought. Any real reform of the immigration system must take us back to the day we welcomed immigrants and encouraged them to learn our language , our history , our traditions , and our  culture , so they could become independent Americans, rather than wards dependent on the state.

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… the Immigration Debate in the House …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,May 2nd,2013

… the Immigration Debate in the House …

.. start over . do not use the Gang of 8 bill proposed in the U.S. Senate as a

benchmark to start . Do your own work .

.. Strong , smart , verifiable border security measures are an absolute must . Nothing

squishy will do . A 1986 bill definitely will not do , as it will “waive ole” at the

border , and ruin things for many , many years to come .

.. Citizen enforcement of the decisions . You will get a great deal of brawling on the

behelf of pro – immigration interest groups . Count on it . That does not even count on

the zealots , such as Azatlan or MalDef . Make sure the decisions that enforce border

security decisions can be challenged . That way , if someone tries to play it cute ,

the courts can come down hard on a political “enemy” administration .

.. A great deal more visas should be made available for those with skills . Not low –

skilled workers. Middle – skilled and Higher – skilled workers are much more desirable

. Also , much more likely to be more philosophically conservative .

.. Reasoned limits on geographic emigrants , and on family unification . The rules

right now are ridiculously loose . Tighten them up , and alot .

.. more to come , as I think more on the subject …

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… On the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill , I am undecided …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,April 24th,2013

.. but , I am leaning in one direction ..

.. Still , i want to provide cover for both sides of the debate , as best as I can ..

.. While the Gang of Eight’s questionable immigration reform bill continues to be submarined by Conservatives for its lack of specifics and clarity, the Senate Judicial Committee began hearings to try to bring some needed transparency to the bill . ..   .. For those who do not have their eyes glued (falling asleep) to C – SPAN today , Senator Ted Cruz asked Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano , “ If there are no objective metrics , if it is simply the subjective assessment of a host of factors , how can we have any confidence (that the border will be secured) and that any trigger will be meaningful ? ” ..   .. In true Obama-style, Napolitano failed to specifically answer his question . ..

.. to understand , I am including the relevant clip from C-Span , and youtube , from the hearings … http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sftJ6FjNmtw

.. This is Senator Cruz ‘ s opinion , from after the hearings ….   .. “ We must have a clear definition of what metrics must be reached in order for the border to be secure. I am not satisfied with answers offered at today’s hearing, as it remains unclear how the provisions in this bill will help achieve a secure border . ..   .. “ As it stands, the border security component – which numbers only 58 pages of the 844-page bill – largely cedes authority to the Department of Homeland Security to determine when and how the border would be secured. However, today’s hearing revealed that the last clear metric for border security – ‘operational control’ – reflected that in 2010, DHS had secured 873 miles of the more than 2,000 mile border. When that metric did not demonstrate success, DHS decided to simply abandon the metric. In order for a metric to be real, it must be meaningful. Currently, there are no objective metrics in place to ensure any triggers in this bill will be meaningful, all while the pathway to citizenship component remains contingent on this undefined border security . ” ..

 

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