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… “Amnesty” and English …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,July 1st,2013

.. This immigration reform attempts to dissolve the melting pot .

.. Backers of the immigration bill under consideration in the Senate say the legislation encourages illegal aliens to learn English, but that’s apparently not so . They’ve been running ads on conservative talk radio programs insisting that the illegals “must learn English” as a condition of legalization.

.. It figures .

.. The usual suspects, including a group called Americans for a Conservative Direction, backed by establishment Republicans and liberal Facebook billionaire Mark Zuckerberg, are peddling this dubious claim. Most backers of immigration reform have opposed efforts to designate English as the official language. These include POTUS . Earlier this month he used his weekly radio address to claim the immigration reform bill “would provide a pathway to earned citizenship for the 11 million individuals who are in this country illegally — a pathway that includes passing a background check, learning English, paying taxes and a penalty.”

..  We are sure he is serious about the “tax” part, but as Breitbart’s Matthew Boyle notes, immigrants are supposed to learn English already under the Immigration and Nationality Act. The Gang of Eight bill actually waters down existing requirements by allowing illegals to qualify for “learning English” status if they sign up for a course , regardless of whether they actually take it. Even if the Gang were serious about the language requirement, it poses a serious  logistical challenge.

.. These people are not all coming from Mexico , from Central America , or from the rest of Latin America . These migrants who might get the proposed amnesty are from

all over the world . That mean language instruction for more than just Spanish speakers , folks . Bringing the entire set of illegals up to fluency in English would require the hiring of thousands of teachers of English as a second language at a cost of millions of dollars.

.. We are a cultural melting pot , merging the best (and , it seems , the worst) of our cultures ., into  one . We are of many faiths , but of one  common language , American English.  It may require a great deal of expense , at first . But , you go the extra mile  , to bring people in from the cold . You help  them to acclimatte  , but voluntarily ., not by force . We all speak our  native tongues , if they are not American English . But we all speak one in  common  . It is not just decency , but dignity  . It is acclimation and cultural fluency  as well as linguistic fuency .

.. The fatal flaw in the Gang of Eight plan is, in fact, its lack of anything encouraging unity; assimilation is an afterthought. Any real reform of the immigration system must take us back to the day we welcomed immigrants and encouraged them to learn our language , our history , our traditions , and our  culture , so they could become independent Americans, rather than wards dependent on the state.


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… the Immigration Debate in the House …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,May 2nd,2013

… the Immigration Debate in the House …

.. start over . do not use the Gang of 8 bill proposed in the U.S. Senate as a

benchmark to start . Do your own work .

.. Strong , smart , verifiable border security measures are an absolute must . Nothing

squishy will do . A 1986 bill definitely will not do , as it will “waive ole” at the

border , and ruin things for many , many years to come .

.. Citizen enforcement of the decisions . You will get a great deal of brawling on the

behelf of pro – immigration interest groups . Count on it . That does not even count on

the zealots , such as Azatlan or MalDef . Make sure the decisions that enforce border

security decisions can be challenged . That way , if someone tries to play it cute ,

the courts can come down hard on a political “enemy” administration .

.. A great deal more visas should be made available for those with skills . Not low –

skilled workers. Middle – skilled and Higher – skilled workers are much more desirable

. Also , much more likely to be more philosophically conservative .

.. Reasoned limits on geographic emigrants , and on family unification . The rules

right now are ridiculously loose . Tighten them up , and alot .

.. more to come , as I think more on the subject …

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… On the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill , I am undecided …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,April 24th,2013

.. but , I am leaning in one direction ..

.. Still , i want to provide cover for both sides of the debate , as best as I can ..

.. While the Gang of Eight’s questionable immigration reform bill continues to be submarined by Conservatives for its lack of specifics and clarity, the Senate Judicial Committee began hearings to try to bring some needed transparency to the bill . ..   .. For those who do not have their eyes glued (falling asleep) to C – SPAN today , Senator Ted Cruz asked Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano , “ If there are no objective metrics , if it is simply the subjective assessment of a host of factors , how can we have any confidence (that the border will be secured) and that any trigger will be meaningful ? ” ..   .. In true Obama-style, Napolitano failed to specifically answer his question . ..

.. to understand , I am including the relevant clip from C-Span , and youtube , from the hearings …

.. This is Senator Cruz ‘ s opinion , from after the hearings ….   .. “ We must have a clear definition of what metrics must be reached in order for the border to be secure. I am not satisfied with answers offered at today’s hearing, as it remains unclear how the provisions in this bill will help achieve a secure border . ..   .. “ As it stands, the border security component – which numbers only 58 pages of the 844-page bill – largely cedes authority to the Department of Homeland Security to determine when and how the border would be secured. However, today’s hearing revealed that the last clear metric for border security – ‘operational control’ – reflected that in 2010, DHS had secured 873 miles of the more than 2,000 mile border. When that metric did not demonstrate success, DHS decided to simply abandon the metric. In order for a metric to be real, it must be meaningful. Currently, there are no objective metrics in place to ensure any triggers in this bill will be meaningful, all while the pathway to citizenship component remains contingent on this undefined border security . ” ..


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