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… We need to Support Pamela Geller [#A.F.D.I.]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,November 9th,2016

.. and her organization , the American Freedom Defense Initiative ..

.. Why ? It is the right thing to do . She has taken some very gutsy stands , and she is courageous . She is willing to make the gutsy call these days that few of us are willing to do ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post …

.. also , because of the actions of this psychotic jihadist , Pamela , s life is under serious threat . This British – born jihadist tweeted her home address , home phone number , and her apartment number on their twitter account just a few days ago ..

.. he also attached the hashtag #goForth … Scary , isn’t it !! …

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… the I.R.S. is Doing What [#secret deal]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,August 29th,2016

.. you have got to be kidding .

.. making a secret deal is bad enough . Doing it with the anti – religious radicals at the Freedom from Religion Foundation is even worse …

.. What could be even worse ? ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog article …

.. these two parties working to enforce a blatanly unconstitutional law . That is the definition of worse . The Johnson amendment was a creation of then – Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson . He hated the guts of a number of Texas pastors who were blasting him and his policies . So , he developed a way to work to ” silence ” them . Thus the Johnson Amendment …

.. given the legislative history , and the bill ‘ s intent , it is clearly unconstitutional . It was intended to silence people who had and have every perfect right to speak out in public . Even if they want to politic from the pulpit …. Given past and present practice , the DummyCraps are hardly one to complain about it . They get away with bloody murder every election season , so zip it . Quit complaining about it . Strike the damn amendment …

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… Now a Court is Showing some Sense [#Hands on Originals]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,May 16th,2016

.. Hands on Originals is a simple business . They generally sell t – shirts ..

.. however , that is also where it got them into trouble …

.. the local Gay & Lesbian Services Organization [GLSO] wanted to have some t – shirts made up to support one of their events . One of the owners of HOO objected . As a result , the GLSO filed a complaint in the county Human Rights Commission …

.. when that body ruled against them . HOO sued in court . Given the current legal climate , they did not expect the best of news . However , the judge in the case ruled in their favour …

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post // legal opinion ..

.. I am going to include a lengthy clip from the blog post by Professor Eugene Volokh , of UCLA . He is the one who the blog is named for and who founded it . Professor Volokh explains things far better than I can , but it is a dandy explanation of the judge ‘ s reasoning . However , it is a bit lengthy , though …

The Commission decided in favor of Baker, but on Monday, in Hands on Originals, Inc. v. Lexington-Fayette Urban County Human Rights Commission, a Kentucky trial court judge disagreed.

1. First, the judge concluded that Hands on Originals was discriminating based on the pro-gay-pride message that GLSO wanted printed, not based on the sexual orientation of GLSO’s representatives or members. This suggests that the judge thought the ordinance just didn’t apply on its own terms, quite apart from any restrictions imposed by the First Amendment or by Kentucky’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act. But as I read the opinion, the judge didn’t make any such specific finding about the inapplicability of the ordinance.

2. The judge did conclude, though, that applying the ordinance to Hands on Originals’ actions violated the First Amendment:

[“T]he right of freedom of thought protected by the First Amendment against state action includes both the right to speak freely and the right to refrain from speaking at all.[”] … The [Commission] attempted to distinguish [the compelled speech precedents] from the case at bar with the explanation that “In this case there was no government mandate that the Respondent (HOO) speak.”… [But i]n fact, HOO and its owners, because they refused to print the GLSO t-shirts that offended their sincerely held religious beliefs, have been punished for the exercise of their Constitutional rights to refrain from being forced to speak….

The Commission in its oral argument says it is not trying to infringe on the Constitutional Rights of HOO and its owners but is seeking only to have HOO “…treat everyone the same.” Yet, HOO has demonstrated in this record that it has done just that. It has treated homosexual and heterosexual groups the same. In 2010, 2011 and 2012, HOO declined to print at least thirteen (13) orders for message based reasons. Those print orders that were refused by HOO included shirts promoting a strip club, pens promoting a sexually explicit video, and shirts containing a violence related message.

There is further evidence in the Commission record that it is standard practice within the promotional printing industry to decline to print materials containing messages that the owners do not want to support. Nonetheless, the Commission punished HOO for declining to print messages advocating sexual activity to which HOO and its owners strongly oppose on sincerely held religious grounds.

HOO did not decline to print the t-shirts in question or work with GLSO representatives because of the sexual orientation of the representatives that communicated with HOO. It is undisputed that neither [of the] HOO representatives … knew or inquired about the sexual orientation of either GLSO representatives …. Rather, … the conversation between GLSO representative … and HOO [co-]owner [Blaine] Adamson was about GLSO’s mission and what the organization generally promoted…. HOO’s declination to print the shirts was based upon the message of GLSO and the Pride Festival and not on the sexual orientation of its representatives or members….

If Massachusetts could not compel [St. Patrick’s Day] parade organizers to include a group advocating a [gay rights] message that the parade organizers did not support, [Hurley v. Irish-American Gay, Lesbian & Bisexual Group of Boston (1995),] how can the LFUCG Human Rights Commission interpret the “Fairness Ordinance” to compel HOO and its owners to print a t-shirt conveying a message that HOO and its owners do not support and in fact find blasphemous? The Court holds that the Commission cannot take this action consistent with the U.S. Constitution….

This Court has undertaken review of this case based upon … the doctrine of “strict scrutiny.” … This Court does not fault the Commission in its interest in insuring citizens have equal access to services but that is not what this case is all about. There is no evidence in this record that HOO or its owners refused to print the t-shirts in question based upon the sexual orientation of GLSO or its members or representatives that contacted HOO. Rather, it is clear beyond dispute that HOO and its owners declined to print the t-shirts in question because of the MESSAGE advocating sexual activity outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. The well established Constitutional rights of HOO and its owners on this issue is well settled and requires action by this Court….

3. The court also held that the commission’s actions violated the Kentucky Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which provides,

Government shall not substantially burden a person’s freedom of religion. The right to act or refuse to act in a manner motivated by a sincerely held religious belief may not be substantially burdened unless the government proves by clear and convincing evidence that it has a compelling governmental interest in infringing the specific act or refusal to act and has used the least restrictive means to further that interest. A “burden” shall include indirect burdens such as withholding benefits, assessing penalties, or an exclusion of programs or access to facilities.

The court first concluded, following the reasoning of the U.S. Supreme Court in Hobby Lobby (where the Court was interpreting a very similar federal statutory scheme) that the Kentucky RFRA applied to corporations such as Hands On Originals, and, “[b]ecause the Commission’s Order requires HOO and its owners to print shirts that convey messages contrary to their faith, that Order inflicts a substantial burden on their free exercise of religion.” And the court then concluded that the commission’s actions can’t be justified under the “strict scrutiny” (“compelling governmental interest” / “least restrictive means”) exception that the Kentucky RFRA provides:

[T]he Commission has not even attempted, much less shown by “clear and convincing evidence” or otherwise, that it has any compelling government interest in the consequences imposed upon HOO and its owners in this case. As previously mentioned, it is the understanding of this Court based on the record that GLSO was able to obtain printing of the t-shirts in question at a substantially reduced price or perhaps even had them printed for free. This was the offer extended by HOO owner Adamson in the initial phone conversation with a GLSO representative to refer GLSO to another printing company to do the work for the same price quoted by HOO. The Court holds that the Commission has not proven by clear and convincing evidence or otherwise that it has a compelling governmental interest to enforce in this case….

The analysis seems quite right to me. I expect there will be an appeal, so we’ll see what the Kentucky appellate courts have to say about this.

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… The Way that the Left Tramples Free Speech [#political chalking][#depaul univ]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,April 27th,2016

.. the loonies got pissed when the Right fought back . The Conservatives on DePaul University ‘ s campus decided to fight back in Campaign 2016 . They wanted to make their message heard ..

.. so they went for political chalking on the DePaul University campus . And they did so in a very big way . So THE radical left got pissed .Very Pissed . ..

political chalking (depaul university)

.. the VP for Student Affairs basically banned all political chalking all over the campus ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post ..

.. huh ? Has DePaul U. forgotten about the 1st Amendment ?? ..

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… Emory University has a Real Problem [#free speech][#US Constitution]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,March 30th,2016

.. Emory University has a real problem on its hands . The usual campus ‘ radicals ” are running wild , trying to bring pressure on the school to achieve their usual pet causes . They are also bring more pressure on the school . They want to act to crush any and all campus opposition to their agendas . However , they have a much bigger problem than they realize ..

.. It is legal . It is also constitutional . It is also moral . And those dummies [both the Administration and the radicals] had better wake up ..

.. Emory ” allows ” political speech by the act of those chalk drawings . Admittedly , it is a bit odd . But , they do allow it . As a result , they have to play fair to all sides . I repeat , to ALL sides . That includes the chalk drawing trump 2016conservatives , as well ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post ..

.. if they allow these drawings , then play fair . Also , no retaliation . None whatsoever . If there is retaliation , especially , there will be repercussions . Most likely , financial . But not just to the University , though . The individuals and groups will be nailed , as well ..

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… Since When is This Kind of Crap Acceptable ?? [#Trump Rally][#Chicago][#UIC Pavillion][#rally cancellation]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,March 12th,2016

.. Friday night , the Donald and his campaign were scheduled to hold a campaign rally in the city of Chicago . specifically , at THE University of Illlinois – Chicago Pavillion . it is , more or LESS < AN ARena .Seating is , well , it is anyone ‘ s guess ..

.. unfortunate the rally was canceled . The real scandal is the reasons for which the rally was canceled . Boy , was this one a real stinker ..

.. the radical left pulled together a plan to stop the event . They pulled out all of the stops in odder to win the public opinion of the event . Well , unfortunately , they DId ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the news article ..

.. and that is the real scandal ..

.. Presidential campaigns are a real major production . They take a great deal of time , effort , and money to put together . When I was in college [@ Cleveland State University , in Cleveland , Ohio] I helped found my campus ‘ chapter of the college Republicans . Being a part of the campaign was a real big help . It was also very busy , involving lots of effort , time , and , yes , money …

.. Most of all , these campaigns are symbolic . They represent people coming together to support their preferred candidate .Most of all they are symbolic . The campaign represents the freedom of speech of the candidate toput forward his / her message . So , when that message is forcibly put down by other group or groups , it is a real BIG THING ..

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… Earth to Massachusettes [#pro – life case]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,August 13th,2014

.. haven’t you dummies heard of McCullen v Coakley ? Duh !! ..

.. passing another pro – death anti – speech zones bill ? ..

.. [h/t — theRightScoop]..
.. [link] to the blog news ..

.. Un – Uh … It will be tossed by a court in your local jurisdiction . Well , it sure as hell should be ..

.. if not , it will be by the 1st Circuit Appeals Court , you dummies …

.. the US Supreme Court decision was unanimous . 9 to 0 . Get the point . You can have a ” buffer zone ” law , yes . But having something like was proposed in the new state law ? No , not even close . Something that especially that is content – based …. the Supremes have said that that manuveur is a very very big no – no …

.. [h/t ––]..

.. [link]–to the news piece ..

.. nice try , pro – death crowd …. try again …

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… Thus is P.C. World [in the N.F.L.]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,May 18th,2014

.. in today ‘ s NFL , you have lost your freedom of speech .

.. you cannot critique or criticize gays and lesbians ..

.. [h/t — TruthRevolt]..
.. [link] to the blog news ..

.. woe be to the league person [player or not] who does …

.. this guy [a DB for the Miami Dolphins] got suspended and fined for speaking his mind . He was also ordered to undergo sensitivity training , as a result of the so – called ” offensive ” tweet …

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… It is Not Just about Same – Sex Marriage [#Boycott Mozilla]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,April 11th,2014

.. it is about freedom of speech , of belief , and of thought , and the pursuit of happiness …

.. Ben Shapiro is an Internet friend of mine . He is an editor – at – large of Breitbart . com , and is the editor – in – chief of . I wanted to reprint his blog post from TruthRevolt , and encourage you to take off Mozilla ‘ s browser Firefox from your computer …

n Thursday, Mozilla, creator of Mozilla Firefox, forced the resignation of CEO Brendan Eich thanks to a $1,000 personal donation he made to a ballot initiative supporting traditional marriage in 2008.

The firing followed a vicious smear campaign against Eich by dating website OKCupid, in which OKCupid blocked Mozilla users from visiting their website, instead directing them to a message declaring that Eich was one of their “enemies.” He was an “enemy” because he held precisely the same position as Barack Obama in 2008, signed a private non-company check to that effect, had never discriminated against a gay person, and was now CEO of a company that had never discriminated against gay people. He was an enemy, in other words, because the thought police didn’t like what was going on in his head, and didn’t like the political activity in which he had engaged anonymously and on his own time.

Was OKCupid’s action legal? Sure.

Was Mozilla’s action in forcing his resignation legal? Of course.

Were both of them not only wrong, but morally disgusting?


This is not about the issue of same-sex marriage. I have personally taken the position that the government should get completely out of the business of marriage. If two men or women want to live together and get married through any private institution of their choosing, I’m fine with that; I hold the same position with regard to one man and one woman. And TruthRevolt is obviously not attempting to crack down on pro-same-sex marriage companies – Google is pro-same-sex marriage, and yet we recommend them as an alternative browser to Firefox.

This issue is far larger than the small and parochial same-sex marriage issue. It is about the chilling of political freedom by small sects of motivated political players. It is the same issue as A&E’s suspension of Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson over his comments paraphrasing the Book of Corinthians. It is the issue of McCarthyistic blacklisting and voter intimidation and ultimately, the issue of utilizing power to silence dissent. In America, we typically prize freedom of speech. And while OKCupid and company may be exercising their market power in fully legal fashion, they’re certainly advocates for quashing freedom of speech.

Imagine a world in which all gay people in America were at risk of firing thanks to religious bigots mobilizing against their perceived sins. Imagine a world in which market power wasn’t just utilized to get gay people fired, but government became a tool of the anti-gay mob. Would that be wrong? Now switch the parties. That’s reality.

Andrew Sullivan, openly gay columnist, has written precisely the same thing:

The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us.

Lesbian commentator Tammy Bruce was more succinct: Mozilla, she said, “caved to the Gay Gestapo.” She added, “Gay civil rights movement began to make sure people weren’t punished for who they were. Now look what you’ve become #gaygestapo @mozilla.”

This is precisely what TruthRevolt was designed to fight. While others may sit still as the left manipulates the market to achieve its ends of shutting up Americans, we will fight back using their own tactics. We, too, can use our market power. We encourage others to do so. We do this not because we want more boycotts, but because we want mutually assured destruction. Since the inception of TruthRevolt, we have stated openly that the moment the left stops engaging in these bully tactics, we will stop responding in kind. Otherwise, we will punch back twice as hard.

It is no coincidence that those backing Mozilla’s decision are the same folks who support the government’s attempts to force businessowners to violate their religious precepts. If anyone believes that the totalitarian left has qualms about using government to achieve their desired ends – that the left will stop at boycotts — he or she should think about what it will be like when it’s not OKCupid, but the government, wielding the club.

This is a fight for freedom, whether or not you agree with Eich’s political perspective. Privately-held political beliefs are no excuse for wheeling out the stocks and demanding public canings. To stop such activity, we will have to fight fire with fire.

We are not powerless in this fight. TruthRevolt will not stand idly by. Neither should you.

Sign our petition, and uninstall Firefox today.

.. LEC again — Thanks , Ben , and well said ! …

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… Quack , Quack — A&E surrenders ! …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,December 27th,2013

.. those dummies finally realized what a blunder that they have made .

.. and boy , did these idiots [A&E] make a lu – lu !

.. this afternoon , the A&E network reinstated Phil Robertson , the patriach of the Robertson family , to ” Duck Dynasty .

.. Yea !! Will I watch it ? ‘ will see …

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… the A & E Network has a Helluva Problem on Its Hands …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,December 22nd,2013

.. the problem is one of their own making , and it is their problem to solve .

.. they knew of the Robertson family ‘ s beliefs . They knew that they were conservative , Christian , and pretty well fundamentalist when they picked up the show in the first place . They have no excuses .

.. Also , G.L.A.A.D. is behaving like a bunch of fascist bullies . They are not the ” Thought Police . ” It is not up to them to decide who appears on T.V. and who does not . They are not any network ‘ s ” Standards & Practices ” division .

.. They also have endangered a profitable franchise that draws quite a bit of attention to their network . The Robertsons have made it quite clear that they will not continue on without Phil , their patriarch …

.. So , what does they do ? …

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… You Figure those Idiots would Learn [on pamphleting on a College Campus] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,September 23rd,2013

.. Amazing .  [link] to story …

.. There have been plenty enough fights on college campuses that these college administrators would learn . People would and do have the right to pamphlet and distribute literature on campus .

..These free speech zones are patently illegal and unconstitutional . People do ont forfeit free speech rights when they enter onto a college campus . There are time , place , and manner restrictions as to sppech , but they cannot be used to suppress it . These dummies should understand that people have civil rights , and in this day and age , people will fight back . There are civil rights organizations of all stripes that are willing to fight and fight back hard against what they consider to be injustices .

[link] — this is a youTube video from the article that caught my eye originally on this piece . You figure that these folks would learn …

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… Our Uniformed Military (enlisted & officers) have as much right to Religious Liberty as Anyone Else …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,July 25th,2013

.. Since when do outside groups have the right to impose religious censorship on our nation ‘ s military ? This is crazy !

.. Good Lord , they have enough to worry about , as it is . Their first job , Job One , is our nation ‘ s defense . Their efforts are second to none . Their abilities to perform their jobs and their missions are second to none . Our nation ‘ s military , its technology , its strategy , and its ability are second to none .

.. So when it is said that having religious faith , and showing the same , and speaking about it , is against the good order and discipline

English: The Bill of Rights, the first ten ame...

English: The Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the United States Constitution (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

in the military service . When does the civilian leadership have the right to impose anti – religious censorship , impinging on the religious freedom and rights of our fellow citizens in uniform ? Why ?

.. These radicals , such as the “Military Religious Freedom Foundation ” and the ” Freedom from Religion Foundation ” have perverted our Constitution , and its freedoms and rights . Most of all , our religious freedoms , for civilian and military alike , in the First Amendment to the Constitution , in the Bill of Rights . What it stands for is not the prohibition of religion in the public sphere . Not at all . It stand for the free exercise thereof , and the prohibition of a “state church.” Not for the suppresion of religion and faith .

.. Our history , military and otherwise , is clear on those points . First and foremost , is the 1st Amendment ‘ s targeting of religious freedom . Our founders wanted to be absolutely sure and clear that all of us have the free and clear right to practice our faith , or to not practice it , if that is our choice . Also , the provision of chaplains of various faiths . These people (men and women) are priests , pastors , rabbis , and imans , there to minister to the religious needs of our troops & Marines . Most of all , without impignging on the good order and discipline in the ranks , is their rights to make statements of religious and moral issues , that are a part of their job as a religious leader from the pulpit .

.. I post this article from Breitbart Media ‘ s “Big Government” of the insanity that is going on in the current atmosphere . It is time that a thorough cleansing of the anti – religious bigots from the public sphere take place …

A Christian chaplain in the military is being officially censored for engaging in free speech, and anti-Christian activists are demanding he be punished.

Lt. Col. Kenneth Reyes is a Christian chaplain currently serving in the U.S. Air Force. He is stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska. As an ordained clergyman whose duties are to provide religious instruction and spiritual counseling, he has a page on the base’s website called “Chaplain’s Corner.”

Reyes recently wrote an essay entitled, “No Atheists in Foxholes: Chaplains Gave All in World War II.” This common saying is attributed to a Catholic priest in World War II, made famous when President Dwight D. Eisenhower said during a 1954 speech: “I am delighted that our veterans are sponsoring a movement to increase our awareness of God in our daily lives. In battle, they learned a great truth that there are no atheists in the foxholes.”

As reported by Fox News’s Todd Starnes, when Reyes referenced this famous line in his essay, the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) contacted the base commander, Col. Brian Duffy, demanding he take action on Reyes’s “anti-secular diatribe.”

MRFF’s letter says that by Reyes’s “use of the bigoted, religious supremacist phrase, ‘no atheists in foxholes,’ he defiles the dignity of service members.” They accuse him of violating military regulations.

My legal research on this issue uncovered no regulation prohibiting Reyes’ speech, which looks like expression protected by the free speech and religious freedom provisions of the First Amendment. Military leaders did not respond to Fox’s inquiries asking the Air Force to identify any such rules.

Nonetheless, only five hours after MRFF’s complaint, the essay was removed from the website. Duffy has profusely apologized to MRFF for not stopping this religious leader from sharing religious thoughts.

But this response—which again appears to be a violation of Reyes’s First Amendment rights—is insufficient for MRFF. They said, “Faith based hate, is hate all the same,” and, “Lt. Col. Reyes must be appropriately punished.” (Emphasis added).

So MRFF is saying that the coercive power of government must be used to punish a military officer, who is also an ordained Christian minister, for making ordinary religious references consistent with his faith.

Retired Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin of the Family Research Council—one of the leaders of a new religious liberty coalition for the military—responded, “A chaplain has been censored for expressing his beliefs about the role of faith in the lives of service members… Why do we have chaplains if they aren’t allowed to fulfill that purpose?”

MRFF is activist Mikey Weinstein’s organization. He called observant Christians “fundamentalist monsters” seeking to impose a “reign of theocratic terror,” and he described sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ in the military as an act of “spiritual rape” that makes believers “enemies of the Constitution” who are committing an act of “sedition and treason” against this nation.

The Obama-Hagel Defense Department and Air Force have met with Weinstein and MRFF over a period of four years and recently told Congress that there are no problems with suppressing religious speech in the military. However, because this growing wave of anti-Christian extremism has been exposed to the public, the U.S. House has inserted new religious liberty protections for military members in pending legislation.

President Obama threatens to veto the legislation. Reyes’s story makes it more likely that Congress will stand its ground and fight to protect the religious liberty of him and countless others in the military, as those service members continue risking their lives to fight for all Americans.

Breitbart News legal columnist Ken Klukowski is senior fellow for religious liberty at the Family Research Council and on faculty at Liberty University School of Law. Follow him on Twitter @kenklukowski.


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… Obamaphobia is …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,June 18th,2013

.. standing for the rule of law  , not the rule of one man ..

.. standing for the rights of the individual , not the rights of a group ..

.. traditional judeo – islamic – christian values , which , when practiced the way they are supposed to be , are not mutually exclusive of each other , or to each other ..

.. the proper separation of powers , where the branches support each other , and their roles , not obstruct each other , and intefere with their work ..

.. religious liberty , not atheistic tyranny ..

.. I have more , add your own , please , keep it clean ! ..

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