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… Waaah !! [#voter registration][#Pinellas Cty][#Chick-fil-A]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,October 5th,2016

.. it seems that Florida Dems are a bunch of crybabies !! ..

.. the Pinellas County Board of Elections decided to mount a voter reg drive at dozens of locations around the county . Then Pinellas Cty Dems started wailing . Why ?!?! ..

.. some of the locations that they chose were Chick – fil – A restaurants ..

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog post // video clip ..

.. so , Chick – fil – A tends to be a tad conservative in its philosophy . Whoopie – Doo !! …


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… What a Big Difference [#Florida Governor]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,October 28th,2014

.. Rick Scott has been doing a bang – up job , and the media has been trying to cover it up …

.. at least his campaign has been carrying forward the message . God Speed , it is working …

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the blog space …

.. Scott has taken a narrow 4 to 5 point lead over turncoat DemoCrap Charlie Christ . The stats that Newsbusters quotes should help to make all the difference . I think that Scott will win re – election , but it will not be easy …

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… More Good Campaign News [#Fla Governor]…

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,September 27th,2014

.. finally , Rick Scott is getting some decent payoff for his hard work and efforts …

.. [h/t —]..
.. [link] to the campaign poll result …

.. Scott now leads republican traitor – turned – DemoCrap Charlie Crist , 45% to 39% , with two other candidates with 5% , and 11% undecided …

.. yes , Rick Scott has work to do . But with the two extra candidates in the race , the usual 50% ceiling is more like a 48% to 47% ceiling . Breaking through that level , especially after all of the hard work that he has done on the airwaves and the campaign trail , seems now to be eminently doable …

.. still remember , run an error – free campaign . Which , so far , Scott has done . The debates are still to come , but Scott has the initiative …. and the record …. he can go after Crist hard ….

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… Whoa … This is even Worse [VAgate] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,May 26th,2014

.. this is evidence uncovered at the VA medical system in South Florida …

.. great work by the CBS affiliate in Miami …

.. [h/t — CBS Miami]..
.. [link] to the interview footage …

.. this VA medical complex is so big , it has its own police department . Amazingly enough , it has officers and detectives …

.. What I am wondering , in this case , is where is the US Attorney for South Florida ? These cases of corruption at the VA medical system in Greater Miami are in her / his area of jurisdiction . This character should be putting together a task force to take up the cases , and bring down the “Wrath of God ” on these idiots …

.. that Detective Thomas Fiore has had to come to the media [a TV station] in order to get the news out , and to get people ‘ s attention , tells me volumes . Where in the hell is the Department of InJustice in this ? They should be picking up the ball , not sitting on it ….

.. Fiore put it succinctly , ” People are dying , and there is so much going on …. ” .

.. Hello , Department of InJustice ?!?!

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… An interesting Take on Florida 13 …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,March 20th,2014

.. Adam Smith is the Tampa Times political editor . Remember , Tampa is Hillsborough County , right next door to Pinellas County (Saint Petersburg) …

.. from what I can tell , this guy is reasonable , and knows his stuff . I believe that he is a moderate Democrat by philosophy , so he is not going to blow smoke up anyone ‘ s rear end , especially a Republican …

.. from this special , Obama is not the only unpopular person in the District . Current Florida Governor Rick Scott is not exactly at the top of anyone ‘ s political dance card . Come the fall , I figure that nobody is eager to want to see either one of them . However , Scott ‘ s problem is manageable ; Obama ‘ s is not .

.. Obama is in serious trouble . He is likely to be facing a fully Republican congress next year , if my hunch is right …

.. [h/t — TambaBay] ..

..  [link] to Adam Smith ‘  s column …

If I’m a Democratic House member in any competitive district in America or a Democratic incumbent senator up for re-election this year in a moderate-to-conservative state like North Carolina, Arkansas, Colorado, Alaska or Louisiana, I’m waking up more than a little anxious about what happened in Pinellas County on Tuesday.

In Alex Sink, Democrats had a better-funded, well-known nominee who ran a strong campaign against a little-known, second- or third-tier Republican who ran an often wobbly race in a district Barack Obama won twice. Outside Republican groups — much more so than the under-funded Jolly campaign — hung the Affordable Care Act and President Obama on Sink.

It worked.

Sink and Jolly both tried to argue repeatedly that the race to succeed the late C.W. Bill Young had more to do with local politics than it did national. Nonsense.

More than $12 million spent on hundreds of TV ads and Lord knows how many direct mail fliers weren’t talking about Pinellas recreation fees and bus routes. They were flooding Pinellas residents with mostly negative attacks about Obamacare and misleading charges about why Sink or Jolly should not be trusted on Medicare and/or Social Security.

Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus had every reason to gloat Tuesday night over Rep.-elect Jolly.

“His victory shows that voters are looking for representatives who will fight to end the disaster of Obamacare, to get Washington to spend our money responsibly, and to put power in the hands of families and individuals,” Priebus said. “In November, voters all across the country will have the chance to send the same message that Pinellas County voters have sent: Democrats’ policies are not working for America.”

Don’t be surprised to see vulnerable Democrats across the country start distancing themselves from health care reform in a way that Sink did not.

Nobody seriously expected Democrats to win back a majority in the U.S. House in November, but Sink’s loss in a winnable swing district makes Democrats’ hold on the U.S. Senate majority look more tenuous than before the special election.

Obama at this point looks like a drag for Democrats in November, just as he consistently has been for Sink.

Four years ago, she narrowly lost a campaign for governor in a tough political climate against a little-known, first-time candidate who cast her as an Obama/Obamacare cheerleader.

This time, she jumped into the race on the heels of a federal government shutdown that seemed likely to seriously damage the Republican brand. Instead, the Obamacare rollout debacle shifted the landscape entirely, and Sink eventually found herself facing another little-known Republican casting her as an Obama/Obamacare cheerleader in a tough political climate.

One big difference between the two Sink races? This time she has little to apologize for. She ran a hyper-disciplined campaign with a far more robust get-out-the-vote effort than Republicans. One can wonder, though, why Democrats waited until after the Republican primary in January to start criticizing the other side. That was the biggest Republican fear.

The state GOP has every reason to cheer its win in a race that early on looked like Sink’s to lose. But looking at how effective the Democrats’ once-nonexistent absentee ballot program has become ought to make them nervous.

A special election always promised to be tough for Democrats. Given the president’s approval ratings, November is likely to be challenging, too, but if Sink opts to run again she at least could be assured a stronger Democratic turnout.

On the other hand, Roll Call has a statistic likely to give the former banking executive pause about taking on Jolly a second time: So far this century, 85 percent of congressional special-election winners win at least two subsequent general elections.

Two invisible political players stand out in this race: Obama and Gov. Rick Scott. Both sides wanted them as far away from Pinellas County as possible.

In their stead, Bill Clinton starred in robocalls for Sink, and Jeb Bush starred in TV ads and mailers for Jolly. Maybe that’s yet another sign that Clinton and Bush remain the most formidable names in politics.

Adam C. Smith can be reached at

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… Nice Try , DummyCraps …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,March 20th,2014

.. the Democrats had a good candidate (Alexandra Sink) , a winnable district , and a 3 to 1 money advantage over a mildly flawed GOP candidate , one who had faced a primary in order to get to the general (special) election ….

.. yet David jolly , the Republican candidate , won ..

.. the DummyCraps have a serious problem come the fall . How serious a problem is up to them , though . It can be managed , but very , very carefully ..

.. not with a crock and bull story like this …

.. [h/t — TruthRevolt]..
.. [link] to the blog post …

The Democrats have been claiming the district was rated R+13, meaning a strong skew to the GOP and the fact that Jolly won by only 2% means the Democrats made up a lot of ground in the special election, but according to WaPo:

The Cook Political Report’s Partisan Voting Index identifies the district as one of the more competitive districts in the nation—Republican plus 1 percent. (The PVI is based on how the district presidential vote compares to the overall national race.) Florida’s 13th congressional district ranked 230 on a list of 435 districts, with 1 being the most Republican and 435 the most Democratic.

In response, officials at the DNC and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee pointed to polls showing turnout would tilt between 8 and 13 percentage points toward Republicans, even as they also showed a tight race between Jolly and Sink. “The hill is steeper in the a special election than a general election,” said Emily Bittner of the DCCC. “We went from R+13 to losing by two points,” which she said put the Democrats in a good position to win outright in the general election in November.

Charlie Cook, the editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, noted that Sink was an experienced candidate who previously had run for governor, while Jolly is lobbyist who was a political novice. “The expectation was that it would be close but that she should win,” he said. “The idea that Republicans underperformed in a district that Obama carried twice is laughable.”  He added that it is “extremely rare” for someone to win special election and then lose the general election just a few months later.

Kessler concludes by with:

We know everyone has a job to do, but this is taking political spin to a ridiculous level. Yes, Young was a repeat winner, but he was a beloved incumbent. Democrats could write this off as a special election with no real ramifications nationwide, they could blame the failure to win on harsh attacks by outside groups and they could say it was a tough loss. But they cannot credibly say that the other party “underperformed” on its way to victory.

NBC News’ Chuck Todd agrees with Kessler. On Thursday’s Morning Joe Program he mocked the Democratic Party claims:

If I hear one more time a Democrat, in the White House: “oh, it’s not a swing district, it’s an R+13,” team. Well it only was that because your people didn’t show up? They didn’t move. They still live in the district! They didn’t leave!

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… Nice Shot , David [Jolly] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,March 19th,2014

.. David Jolly got off a good swipe at Nancy Pelosi the other night on the Kelly File …

.. [h/t — theGatewayPundit]..
.. [link] to the show segment ..

.. she is really going to love dealing with this guy . Besides , I wonder who the DemoCraps are going to find to run against him in November …

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… David Jolly wins in Florida 13 …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,March 12th,2014

.. yippie !! ..

.. yea , I am happy about this .

.. Florida 13 is a ” purple ” district . It had been held by a Republican [C.W. ” Bill ” Young]] for 43 years until Young died late last year . Both sides cleared the field for their preferred candidates (Alexandra Sink for the DemoCraps , and the winner , David Jolly , for the Republicans) .

.. it is a single county district , being entirely within the confines of Pinellas County in Florida . For those who do not know , that is the Tampa / Saint Petersburg area [Tampa is in Hillsborough county , while Saint Pete is in Pinellas] . It has a significant minority as well as Latino population . So , it is not an easy county for a Republican  to win . But Jolly did it .

.. Jolly won  with almost 50% of the vote ,just missing  the 50% mark . Sink won just over 45% of the  vote .  The libertarian candidate , Lucas Overbay , received about 4% to 4.5% of the vote . So , nice job  , David Jolly …

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… Alex Sink must Have a Death Wish …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,March 7th,2014

.. boy , what a stupid comment to make .

.. Alexandra Sink is a congressional candidate . You might guess that she is a DemoCrap . She is running in a special election [March 11th , 2014] for the seat of the late congresscritter C.W. ” Bill ” Young . Young was a moderate Republican (in other words , a R.I.N.O.) who made this district his home for all of his life .

.. Bill Young died late last year . Governor Rick Scott called a special election for March 11th , and Sink and GOPer David Roby ended up being the candidates in the race for this district [Florida 13] . Florida 13 is no easy task . It is suburban turf in and around Tampa Bay and Saint Petersburg .

.. Normally , it is a moderately Democrat – leaning district . Young , being the long – time chairman of the Appropriations Committee , would normally be the only GOPer who could hold this district for the Republicans . But this year is no normal political year …. the question is , can Sink hold the district for the Dems , or will Roby flip it back to the GOP ??

.. ObamaCrapCare is weighing things down for the DemoCraps . They are getting nailed by an unprecedented TV ad barrage all around the country . Now , they are getting it here . Plus , AFP and other groups are also getting the free media from the news coverage of the ad war . This time , for the Dems , the shoe is on the other foot .

.. You would think that Sink would learn to discipline her mouth and her campaign message . She has been around the block before , and she should gosh darned know better . She was the State of Florida ‘ s Chief Financial Officer , and was the 2010 nominee for Governor against Rick Scott . Guess what ?? …

.. she stuck her foot in her mouth , big time …. she got a little flip with her mouth , and made a potentially huge gaffe … see here …

.. [h/t — theGatewayPundit]..

.. [link] to the campaign blooper …

.. you can bet that Roby and his campaign will have this blunder up on the airwaves all over the place . This kind of gaffe is a gift to Roby , and hopefully he will take maximum advantage of it …

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… Nicely Done , Dummies [embarassing H.H.S.] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,November 20th,2013

.. her royal highness , H.H.S. Secretary Kathleen G. Sebelius went to a ObamaCrapCare presser this morning down in Florida .

.. You go were your potential audience is , though . However , for Madame Secretary , it was a huge embarassment . Why , do you ask ? When a patron was accessing the “” site , with Her Royal Highness looking over her shoulder , guess what happened ?

.. the website crashed . Ha!Ha! No joke , it did ! How stupid is that . Nice prep work and stagecraft , guys and gals . Oops !

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… What was Alan Grayson thinking ? ….

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,October 28th,2013

.. Alan Grayson is an over – the – top political figure , that is without question . But what he has done this time has put him waaaay past waaaay over the line .

.. There are quite a few demagogues in the Democratic party . Usually , these find a line that it is not acceptible to cross . Unfortunately , Alan Grayson is not one of them . When he sees any type of that line he either ignores it , or erases it . And as lunatic left fringe as the party leadership is (safe Steny Hoyer of Maryland) , I would think that they would find this commentary” far less than helpful ” . ..  One thing is fundraising . A lightning rod such as Grayson is a perfect foil to lash the DemoCraps with to the mizzen mast . Even more than that , it also represents the future lunacy that is in story (politics and policy both) if the Dems continue in any kind of power , anywhere , ever again . .. Another thing is candidate recruitment . You do not want nuts . But you do want the serious , and the committed . These days ,  the wealthiest the potential candidate , the better …

... see what I mean ...

… see what I mean …

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… ShutDown & Petty [Closing the Ocean ?!?!] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,October 5th,2013

… [h/t — Mike Flynn , BigGovernment] …

.. I have heard of closing public beaches , especially those that are at public parks . But , closing the ocean ? This is a new one , that is for sure …

Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was “closed” due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban… of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.

This is governing by temper-tantrum. It is on par with the government’s ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away from it.

At least that Memorial is an actual structure, with some kind of perimeter that can be fenced off. Florida Bay is the ocean. How, pray tell, do you “close” 1,100 square miles of ocean? Why would one even need to do so?

Apparently, according to an anonymous Park Service ranger, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

Centuries ago, King Canute famously failed to command the ocean tide to stop. His display was actually a means to educate his subjects on the limits of royal power. Today, however, our President actually believes he has the power to control the oceans.

… LEC here again — I have heard of having a hissy fit , but gee whiz ….

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… You figure that the Hunt Family would Learn [#JailKate] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,August 23rd,2013

.. but , Noooooooooooooooooooooooo .

.. via Lonely Conservative

Father Of Pedophile Tries To Shut Down Critical Website

Do you remember hearing about Kaitlyn Hunt, the young woman who was arrested for having sex with a 14 year old girl? Well, she’s in jail now because she refused to stop molesting the middle school child. In the meantime, her father and some of her supporters have been trying to shut down The Other McCain which has been critical of Hunt.

Every decent, law-abiding citizen of Indian River County despises the Hunt family, a vile pack of trashy scum who have done everything possible to bring shame and dishonor upon their community.

And it has now come to my attention that several weeks ago, when the facts of the Kaitlyn Hunt case were just beginning to steven hunt (mug shot)destroy the dishonest “Free Kate” myth her parents had created with their hateful lies, Steven Hunt conspired with one of their Facebook group administrators to “shut down” this blog ….

In other words, Amber was soliciting membesr of the computer-hacking conspiracy “Anonymous” — which had originally rallied to the “Free Kate” banner — to help shut down my blog. Amber boasted of her influence within Anonymous. While those online anarchists are crazy, however, most of them are not stupid and, as the facts about Kaitlyn Hunt’s case emerged, support among the “Anons” quickly eroded.

You see the lawless tactics that Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawless supporters endorsed in their effort to suppress the truth. As the entire purpose of the “Free Kate” movement was to apply political pressure to Florida law enforcement — to smear the victim’s family and falsely accuse prosecutors of discriminatory intent — it is possible that these messages might be interpreted as part of a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

(on the other side [h/t —])

site,, which compiles the authentic facts about the Kaitlyn Hunt case. Amber identified me as “the biggest supporter” of Steven Hunt then called me a “DOUCHE,” and Amber said:

“Yeah well im trying to get his server kicked off
the internet and cause him to go in a media blackout.
thats if anon agrees with our opinion of him.”

In other words, Amber was soliciting members of the computer-hacking conspiracy “Anonymous” — which had originally rallied to the “Free Kate” banner — to help shut down my blog. Amber boasted of her influence within Anonymous. While those online anarchists are crazy, however, most of them are not stupid and, as the facts about Kaitlyn Hunt’s case emerged, support among the “Anons” quickly eroded.

You see the lawless tactics that Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawless supporters endorsed in their effort to suppress the truth. As the entire purpose of the “Free Kate” movement was to apply political pressure to Florida law enforcement — to smear the victim’s family and falsely accuse prosecutors of discriminatory intent — it is possible that these messages might be interpreted as part of a conspiracy to obstruct justice.

But I am just a journalist, not a lawyer.

“Brass-knuckles reputation management” usually fails, because the truth eventually is known, and if Steven Hunt has not researched the “Streisand Effect,” he should be advised that he has been dealing with its consequences for about three months now.

Honest people hate a liar, and when the liar displays himself as a bully who thinks he can intimidate people into silence . . .

Well, how’s that plan working out for ya so far, Steve?

Your criminal pervert daughter is now in jail, charged with a new felony, the evidence of which the judge called “overwhelming.” Kaitlyn’s lawyer seems to be having a nervous breakdown, and people who have long been silent are now speaking out.

As bad as that was, Booking #2012-00001721 has now been exposed as having sought to deprive me of my professional livelihood, and therefore the dreaded War Oath of Clan Cameron has been sworn.

… LEC again … Rob is pursuing his chosen vocation , his career , and those cretins in the Hunt family are trying , in rather creepy fashion , to try and trash his reputation , and his blog . I have never met him , except on the ‘net , and he appears to be a decent , god – fearing christian gentleman and husband and father . He is most worthy of your patronage and your support …

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… #freeKate is #deadMeat …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,August 20th,2013

… once you pick up this piece from , written by Rob McCain , and then you will understand that Katelyn Hunt is definitely going to jail . She will have company . More than likely , her mother will be there , with her , in almost as much trouble as she is …

Prosecutors Withdraw Plea Deal for Accused Lesbian Sex Offender



A plea bargain offered to accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt has been withdrawn after Florida prosecutors say the teenage lesbian violated a judge’s order not to have contact with her underage victim. WPEC-TV reported that Hunt could be arrested today, and that the 19-year-old former cheerleader’s mother Kelley Hunt Smith may also face charges in connection with the case.

Hunt was a senior at Sebastian River High School when she was arrested in February on charges that she had sex with a 14-year-old freshman girl who was a basketball teammate. Hunt was charged with two felonies; the age of consent in Florida is 16. Last week, state attorney Bruce Colton‘s office filed a complaint that Hunt, who has been free on $5,000 bond awaiting trial, violated the no-contact order that was a condition of her pretrial release.

Prosecutors say Kaitlyn Hunt, 19, violated bond by continuing 'intimate contact' with victim.

Prosecutors say Kaitlyn Hunt, 19, violated bond by continuing ‘intimate contact’ with victim.

According to a stunning 4-page petition Colton’s office filed with Circuit Court Judge Robert Pegg, Hunt sent more than 20,000 text messages to the younger girl after the no-contact order was issued, and also sent the victim “lewd” photos and an explicit video of herself  “masturbating by rubbing her vagina with her fingers while moaning.” Hunt also arranged secret meetings for “intimate contact” with the younger girl, now 15, prosecutors allege, and say that these violations of the no-contact order continued as recently as two weeks ago. In addition, the prosecution petition quoted messages from both Hunt and her mother urging the victim to conceal their ongoing communication.


A hearing on the prosecutor’s complaint has been scheduled for Tuesday, but Scott T. Smith of Palm Beach CBS affiliate WPEC-TV reported Monday “Hunt faces being returned to jail as soon as today, and her mom may also face charges.” A plea bargain offered to Hunt last month has now been withdrawn, ABC affiliate WPBF-TV reports:

The state recently offered Hunt a second plea deal that would have kept her out of jail and not required her to register as a sex offender. But that was before the new information came to light, and prosecutors pulled the offer Monday morning.

Violating the no-contact order could mean that not only will Hunt have to wait in jail until her case goes to trial, but she and her mother could also face charges of contempt of court and obstruction of justice.

Teenage lesbian Kaitlyn Hunt was a popular cheerleader in Florida.

Teenage lesbian Kaitlyn Hunt was a popular cheerleader in Florida.

The Palm Beach Post reports that “with no plea deal being offered Hunt is facing felony charges, jail time, and could become a registered sex offender if convicted. A judge could order her arrest at any moment, but attorneys say it is highly unlikely she would be arrested before her hearing Tuesday afternoon.”

The Hunt case gained nationwide media attention in May, when Hunt rejected the first plea bargain offered by prosecutors. More than 300,000 people signed an online petition urging that the charges against her be dropped, after her parents claimed that Hunt was the victim of anti-gay discrimination. In a Facebook post, Hunt’s mother defended Kaitlyn’s involvement with a 14-year-old, saying the girls were “experimenting with their sexuality … They are teens, it’s healthy and normal.” In that May 17 Facebook post, Kaitlyn Hunt’s mother named the parents of the younger girl nine times, denouncing them as “bigoted, religious [zealots] … full of hate and bigotry” for opposing their daughter’s involvement with Kaitlyn, who was then 18.

Accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt is comforted by her father at a May press conference.

Accused sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt is comforted by her father at a May press conference.

According to an Indian River County Sheriff’s Office affidavit in the case, Hunt began having sex with the victim in December: “The first time occurred in the bathroom of the W wing at Sebastian High School. [The 14-year-old] stated that they sent text messages to each other to meet in the bathroom. [The 14-year-old] and Kaitlyn went into a bathroom stall and started kissing. Kaitlyn then took [the 14-year-old’s] pants off and put her finger inside of [the 14-year-old’s] vagina.” According to the affidavit by Detective Jeremy Shepherd, on Jan. 4, the 14-year-old ran away and spent the night at Hunt’s house, where the two teens “put their fingers inside of each other’s vaginas, put their mouths on each other’s vaginas, and both of them used a vibrator on each other to insert it in each other’s vaginas.”

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… I guess that #FreeKate has not gotten the Message …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Tuesday,August 20th,2013

.. it should be #jailKate !

.. for the uninitiated , Kate refers to Katelyn Hunt , who is an 18-yr-old young adult . She was busted for having lesbian sex with a 14-year-old . She did not take an offered plea bargain , instead deciding (along with her family) to turn her cause into a cause celebre . Gross !

..Florida law is clear that anyone 18 or older having sex with someone 15 or younger has committed a crime. This crime is “usually” prosecuted for the same reason that Kate Hunt is being prosecuted: Parents of the minor victim discover that their young teenager is sexually involved with an adult, object to this involvement, and call the cops.

Will anyone argue that this law is unreasonable?

Is it wrong for parents to be empowered, with the law on their side, to say, “Hey, leave my kid alone, you creep, or I’ll call the cops”?

..Let us stipulate that there are probably lots of 18- and 19-year-old guys who may be sexually interested in much younger teenage girls.

.. This is the typical scenario: A girl who is physically mature but not yet 16 becomes involved with a guy in his late teens or early 20s and this involvement is entirely voluntary — indeed, often quite enthusiastic — on the part of the girl who, in the eyes of the law, is the victim of a crime because she is incapable of legal consent.

.. Maybe that seems crazy to you. You may say, “But this girl is willing and eager to have sex at 14 or 15, why criminalize this guy, only four or five years older than her, for giving her what she wants?”

.. The answer is that this is a minor dependent upon, and under the authority of, her parents, who have a duty to supervise her behavior — to make sure she brushes her teeth and does her homework and looks both ways before crossing the street — for her own good. And if the parents of 14-year-old Heather Hotpants don’t want their daughter taking a ride on the one-eyed love monster with 19-year-old Billy the Boner, they are empowered by law to prevent it.

Maybe you think this kind of parental empowerment is a bad thing, but if you don’t have a teenage daughter, well, shut the hell up.

Parents have duties and parents have rights, and if we don’t want total sexual anarchy — horny hoodlums cruising the middle-school parking lot in search of some easy action — we’d better by God stand on the side of parents trying to protect their daughters.

As it is, however, Florida’s age of consent is 16. This law is by no means secret and evidence in this case indicates that Kaitlyn Hunt knew damned well her involvement with a 14-year-old was illegal.

                                                WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT ‘JAILBAIT’?

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… The Presidential Bully Pulpit is …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Saturday,July 20th,2013

.. to help calm down a situation , not to pour gasoline on a fire .

.. For God ‘ s Sake , has not Barack Obama understood the meaning of what it is to be President , and the powers of his office that he has at his command . My God , what is needed now is a calming voice , and leadership skill . What do we get ? Gasoline on a fire , and a flamethrower . Nice Going , Dumb Dumb .

..President Obama expanded on the acquittal of George Zimmerman at a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room today, noting that he once said he could have had a son like Trayvon Martin but now revising that to “Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.”

“I want to make sure that once again I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin,” Obama said in the halting, teleprompter-less statement, where he lauded Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin for the “incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation.”

.. Lawyer Obama said he wouldn’t discuss arguments about the legal side of the case: “I’ll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues,” he said, stressing that the legal process worked in a “professional manner” as it should. “In a case such as this, reasonable doubt is relevant,” he added. “…Once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works.” He said that it was critical to keep in mind “the African-American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.”

“There are very few African-American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store — that includes me,” Obama said, adding the examples of hearing car doors lock when you walk onto a block or seeing a woman “clutch her purse nervously and holding her breath” when a black man gets in an elevator.

This affects, he said, “how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida.”

“There is a history racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws, everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case,” the president continued. “This isn’t to say that the African-American community is naive about the fact that African-American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system, that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact.”

“The fact that a lot of African-American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuses given, ‘Well, there are these statistics out there that show that African-American boys are more violent,’ using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.”

“Statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was probably, statistically, more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else,” Obama acknowledged. “Folks understand the challenges that exist for African-American boys; they get frustrated if they feel that there’s no context for it.”

If Trayvon was a white teen, he said, “both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.”

Obama called protests and vigils in the wake of the verdict “understandable.”

“If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family,” he said.

The president said he was “bouncing around” some ideas with his staff, but hadn’t concocted some sort of “five-point plan” to address the trial aftermath.

He warned that the attorney general’s review of the case in a civil-rights capacity at the Justice Department may not yield the charges some seek. “I know that Eric Holder is reviewing what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some clear expectations here,” he said. “Traditionally, these are issues of state and local government.”

“That doesn’t mean, though, that as a nation we can’t do some things that I think would be productive.”

Obama suggested more law enforcement training “to reduce the kind of mistrust in the system that sometimes currently exists” and studying laws that could be “designed in such a way that they may encourage the kinds of altercations and confrontations and tragedies that we saw in the Florida case, rather than diffuse potential altercations.”

He stressed that Stand Your Ground was not invoked as a defense in the Zimmerman case. “On the other hand, if we’re sending a message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms, even if there’s a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we’d like to see?”

“I just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman, who had followed him in a car, because he felt threatened?” Obama continued. And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws.”

He also suggested convening panels composed of clergy, celebrities, and athletes to help kids who are “getting a lot of negative reinforcement” to “give them the sense that their country cares about them.”

Obama even took a dig at his own beer summit in calling for “soul searching” as the nation tries to have a conversation on race.

“I haven’t seen that be particularly productive when, you know, politicians try to organize conversations,” he said.

“Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race,” Obama said, noting his daughters’ interactions with their friends. “They’re better than we are, they’re better than we were on these issues.”

“We should also have confidence that kids these days, I think, have more sense than we did back then and certainly more than our parents did or our grandparents did, and that along this long and difficult journey, you know, we’re becoming a more perfect union, not a perfect union, but a more perfect union.”

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… Angela Corey should Be [Zimmerman Case Prosecutor] (Keep It Decent) …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Friday,July 19th,2013

.. tarred and feathered , at the very least (my choice) .

.. prosecuted , (others)

.. spend time in the “graybar” hotel (even more others) .

… Rob McCain (theOtherMcCain) thinks she should be disbarred . Good ! Add that in .

The more I learn about this woman, the more I hate her: She got George Zimmerman charged with murder based on a misleading probable cause claim, rather than getting an indictment from a grand jury. Also, Angela Corey is an evil vindictive bitch:

In 2008, Corey was elected state attorney for Florida’s Fourth Judicial Circuit, taking over from Harry Shorstein — the five-term state attorney who had fired her from his office a year earlier, citing “long-term issues” regarding her supervisory performance. When Corey came in, she cleaned house. Corey fired half of the office’s investigators, two-fifths of its victim advocates, a quarter of its 35 paralegals, and 48 other support staff — more than one-fifth of the office. Then she sent a letter to Florida’s senators demanding that they oppose Shorstein’s pending nomination as a U.S. attorney. “I told them he should not hold a position of authority in his community again, because of his penchant for using the grand jury for personal vendettas,” she wrote.

Did I mention that Angela Corey is an evil vindictive bitch?

An information technology specialist who say he was fired for exposing information that he said Florida prosecutors attempted to withhold from George Zimmerman‘s defense attorneys will file a lawsuit against his former employers. Ben Kruidbos was fired after testifying at a June 6 hearing that photos and text messages from Trayvon Martin‘s cell phone were not turned over to the defense, as required by law. Kruidbos’ attorney Wesley White told Reuters news agency that he will be filing a whistleblower lawsuit against the office of Angela Corey and Bernie de la Rionda, who were appointed to prosecute the case against Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who fatally shot Martin in February 2012.

[h/t — viralread (rsmccain)]

Whistleblower Ben Kruidbos Will Sue Zimmerman Prosecutors


Ben Kuridbos testifies at a June hearing about evidence in the George Zimmerman trial.



An information technology specialist who say he was fired for exposing information that he said Florida prosecutors attempted to withhold from George Zimmerman‘s defense attorneys will file a lawsuit against his former employers.

Ben Kuridbos testifies at a June hearing about evidence in the George Zimmerman trial.

Ben Kruidbos testifies at a June hearing about evidence in the George Zimmerman trial.

Ben Kruidbos was fired after testifying at a June 6 hearing that photos and text messages from Trayvon Martin‘s cell phone were not turned over to the defense, as required by law. Kruidbos’ attorney Wesley White told Reuters news agency that he will be filing a whistleblower lawsuit against the office of Angela Corey and Bernie de la Rionda, who were appointed to prosecute the case against Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who fatally shot Martin in February 2012. After a trial that garnered nationwide attention, a Seminole County jury on Saturday found Zimmerman not guilty of murder.

In notifying Kruidbos of his termination last week, a spokeswoman for the state’s attorney’s office, Cheryl Peek, excoriated him for what she called his “deliberate, willful and unscrupulous actions.” At the June 6 hearing, Kruidbos testified that he believed that prosecutors had not shared with Zimmerman’s defense the full contents of information extracted by a forensic search of Martin’s cell phone, including photographs of marijuana and a semi-automatic handgun. Ultimately, the photos and text messages were ruled inadmissible in the trial by Judge Debra Nelson.

Corey’s handling of the prosecution has been widely criticized, both by supporters of Martin — who blame her for failing to win a conviction of Zimmerman — and also by supporters of Zimmerman, who say he never should have been charged with murder in the shooting incident that the jury ultimately decided was self-defense.

Florida prosecutor Angela Corey speaks at a post-trial press conference Saturday.

Kruidbos’s lawyer slammed Corey for comments she made after Zimmerman was acquitted.

“You have assailed and undermined both the right to trial by jury and the finality and dignity associated with a jury verdict,” White said in a letter published at The Conservative Treehouse blog. “For you to label George Zimmerman, an acquitted defendant, as a ‘murderer’ at this juncture is reprehensible and irresponsible, can only breed contempt for our system of justice and the rule of law, and may very well lead to civil unrest.”

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… Eric Holder , Have You gone Mad ?!?! …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,July 17th,2013

.. and lost all sense of dignity , decency , and proportion .

.. the Attorney General could have made things better . At least , he could have tried . Unfortunately , I believe , he has made things a whole lot worse .

.. He made a speech today at the N.A.A.L.C.P. national convention in Orlando , Florida . He could have and should have chosen his words with great care . He did not [Included text] . He went on to the offensive , and attacked Florida ‘ s self – defense – oriented “stand your ground” law . Anywhere else , that might have been understandible . At this gathering , it was a capital offense of pandering to the idiots .

.. U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, in a speech to the nation’s largest civil rights group, said it’s time to “take a hard look” at state

English: Official portrait of United States At...

English: Official portrait of United States Attorney General Eric Holder Español: Retrato oficial de Fiscal General de los Estados Unidos Eric Holder (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

laws that allow individuals who feel threatened to respond with deadly force.

.. Addressing an issue that gained prominence with the killing of Trayvon Martin, the black teenager shot by George Zimmerman in February 2012, Holder said laws like Florida’s Stand Your Ground statute “senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhood.”

.. “These laws try to fix something that was never broken,”Holder said today at the NAACP’s national convention in Orlando, Florida. “We must stand our ground to ensure that our laws reduce violence, and take a hard look at laws that contribute to more violence than they prevent.” Holder’s remarks marked the first time he has spoken on the issue. They come just days after Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchvolunteer, was acquitted of state second-degree murder charges by a jury in Sanford, Florida.

— no , genius , the “stand your ground” law reiterates was has been the tradition from common law of self – defense . Putting it in the statute books , in plain black – and – white , makes it clear to  the judiciary (especially with Florida ‘  s judicial activist antics) that people are allowed to defend themselves , and are not , repeat , NOT , required to retreat to do so . —

Holder now adds a high-level federal voice to the effort being pushed by civil rights groups around the country to roll back state laws that allow for individuals wide latitude to respond with force when they are threatened in a public place.

Law’s Impact

Florida’s Stand Your Ground law enables individuals to“meet force with force,” rather than back away. While Zimmerman’s attorneys didn’t cite the law in their defense arguments, local officials said it prevented police from arresting Zimmerman immediately after the shooting because he said he shot Martin in self-defense.

Holder stopped short of pushing for any specific action, federal or otherwise, to challenge the laws. More than 30 states have enacted laws that implement some form of Stand Your Ground legal protection for those who respond with deadly force to threatening situations.

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… A Dandy Interview [Mark O ‘ Mara (GZ)] …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Monday,July 15th,2013

… I picked this up from Legal Insurrection (Mandy Nagy — the “Liberty Chick) (thanks Mandy) … it is an interview that Martin Savidge of CNN had with Mark O ‘ Mara , George Zimmerman ‘ s lead defense attorney …

… I read the text , and it is a real dandy … It is well worth reading . I am reposting the text of the interview , below [links to the interview are for Legal Insurrection ‘ s post [here] , and at [here] …

… Martin Savidge is a solid news pro . He is originally from Northeast Ohio [WJW Fox 8] , and cut his news teeth for years here , before going up to the news big leagues (first at NBC , then at CNN) . I do not watch CNN all that much , but when I realized Savidge did the interview , I knew O ‘ Mara was going to get a fair shake …

O’Mara: No winners possible in Zimmerman case

By Martin Savidge and Tom Watkins , CNN

updated 8:31 AM EDT, Sat July 13, 2013

Lake Mary, Florida (CNN) — Whatever the six-woman jury mulling the fate of George Zimmerman decides, the former neighborhood watch volunteer charged with second-degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin cannot emerge as a winner, according to his defense attorney.

Asked Wednesday what kind of life Zimmerman would lead if he were acquitted, Mark O’Mara told CNN’s Martin Savidge “not a good one.”

“He has to live mostly in hiding, he has to protect himself from that periphery that still believe that he’s some racist murderer or acted in a bad way,” O’Mara said. “I think that he’s probably concerned about living in central Florida and never having a normal life, and that’s unfortunate. His life will never be the same.”

Did investigators blow the Zimmerman case?

O’Mara said he had received dozens of e-mails from people “who are vicious in their hatred for George Zimmerman — and for me. It’s absurd, but they’re there. So, I don’t know which is the one who’s going to walk down the street at the same time George does. They know what he looks like; he doesn’t know what they look like.”

O’Mara: Case is not about civil rights

O’Mara: Jeantel was a reluctant witness

But O’Mara offered no regrets about having taken on the high-profile, racially charged case in April 2012, two months after the black 17-year-old was shot dead in a Sanford, Florida, neighborhood while returning home one February night wearing a hoodie sweatshirt and carrying nothing more threatening than a bag of Skittles and a canned soft drink.

“It just seemed like it was perfect for me,” the lawyer said. “And you overlay that with the social questions about the case, the racism questions, the way this case is being viewed, even the stand-your-ground law itself, it just met on literally all eight cylinders.”

Florida’s stand-your-ground law, which allows the use of deadly force by someone facing a reasonable belief of an illegal threat, has also come under scrutiny in the case.

What about Martin’s right to ‘stand his ground’?

The defense lawyer said he typically does not even ask his clients — most of whom “have done something wrong” — whether they are innocent of whatever charge or charges they face. “It’s too personal, in a strange way,” he said.

But that was not the case with Zimmerman.

“Once I learned that George was significantly injured that night, and that he voluntarily complied with all law enforcement requests — from interviews to voice stress analysis tests to walkthroughs — I knew that there was something here different than most cases.”

He said he regretted that the case has divided the country along racial lines, which would not be erased by the verdict. “Half of the country is going to be upset with the verdict. It’s absurd,” he said. “And it’s absurd that 75% of the people who were asked about whether or not George Zimmerman could get a fair trial a month before the trial started said no. That should never happen in our country. There shouldn’t be 1% of our population who believes that anybody cannot get a fair trial.”

Top 10 moments in the Zimmerman trial

Zimmerman’s father has accused the counsel of not stating forcefully enough that his son was innocent, but the lawyer defended his actions. “While I could have gone up to the top of the stairs and screamed his innocence at the top of my lungs, I would have only incensed those very people who I really wanted to do some reaching out to,” he said.

He credited that tack with having lowered the intensity of the public anger that boiled over in the initial stages of the case. “There are not a lot of people screaming at the top of their lungs any more that George is a racist, and they’re not even saying that he’s a murderer,” he said. “I think people get that he’s a non-racist.”

What’s next for George Zimmerman?

O’Mara: No trial if not for Ben Crump

O’Mara reflects on prosecutor, judge

O’Mara cited his client’s work as a mentor to black children and his having taken a black girl to his prom as evidence of his nonracist beliefs. “You didn’t have to scratch very far below the surface to realize that George Zimmerman is an anti-racist,” he said.

Zimmerman trial: It’s about race

O’Mara said he has funded some of the defense work out of his own pocket. “People still need to be paid,” he said, “depositions need to be taken.” While he welcomed donations from the public, most of them in $10 to $100 amounts, he said he has rejected “a dozen or thereabouts” donations that came with messages expressing racist points of view.

This trial would never have happened — and Zimmerman would never be the subject of death threats, even if he’s acquitted — if it weren’t for the efforts of lawyers for Martin’s family, led by Benjamin Crump, contends O’Mara.

“They victimized him,” the defense lawyer said. “George Zimmerman was victimized by a publicity campaign to smear him, to call him a racist when he wasn’t, and to call him a murderer when he wasn’t.”

When confronted with these comments Friday night, Crump countered by saying that Zimmerman’s team “seemed to forget that Trayvon Martin was dead, (an) unarmed kid on the ground who his client profiled, followed, pursued and shot in the heart.”

“They had … a confessed killer, and they weren’t going to arrest him,” Crump told CNN’s Piers Morgan, adding that he felt compelled to help Martin’s parents press the case. “There’s something wrong with that.”

On the other side, O’Mara said politics appeared to have affected the way the case was handled by the prosecution. He noted that a special prosecutor was brought in “when there doesn’t seem to be any reason why,” and that “most good analysts” believed the charges filed were “an abomination.”

But he had praise for Judge Debra Nelson, who has overseen the case. “Even though the rulings did not go our way like I would like them to, she was always well-prepared. She does her case law research, she does her homework,” he said. “You mention a case, she knows the case. Those are the signs of a very good judge.”

He predicted that justice would ultimately prevail in the form of an acquittal for Zimmerman but acknowledged that the jury deliberation would be a difficult time for him.

“I can’t eat, I can’t work, I just have to wait, it is the worst thing,” he said. “It’s sort of like waiting for a child to be born or something. … I don’t think there’s anything else you can do.”

How long did the juries of other major trials deliberate?

CNN’s Martin Savidge carried out the interview in Lake Mary, Tom Watkins wrote it from Atlanta. CNN’s Greg Botelho contributed to this report.

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… LameStremMedia Race Hustling Has Put George Zimmerman on Trial …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Sunday,July 14th,2013

the LameStreamMedia Race Hustling has Put George Zimmerman on Trial

[h/t pjmedia , bryan preston]

.. On the night of February 26, 2012, an altercation between two men in Sanford,
FL, left one of them dead. After the deadly encounter, Sanford police took the
lone survivor in, questioned him, weighed the evidence, and concluded that he
had killed the other man in self-defense. The police released him and identified
the two participants in the incident: Trayvon Martin, 17, who had been killed,
and George Zimmerman, 28, who had fired the shot that killed Martin. Sanford
police soon come under assault in the media for mishandling the case. Before
long, Washington gets involved.

..From Feburary 29 to March 8, 2012, nothing much happens in the case. On March 8,
though, the case gained national momentum when Tracy Martin, father of Trayvon,
holds a press conference calling on Sanford police to arrest Zimmerman and
charge him with murder. Two days later, on March 10, the Martin family gathered
at the Sanford Police Department to urge police again to arrest and charge
Zimmerman. Three days later, on the 13th, the Martin family asks Sanford police
to release the 911 call from the night of the shooting. On March 16, Sanford
police comply with that request and the 911 call from George Zimmerman to
dispatchers is released. Zimmerman is heard on the recording telling the
dispatcher about an unknown man walking through the gated residential community
in the rain. Zimmerman tells the dispatcher that based on his experience as a
neighborhood watchman, the unknown man appears to be up to “no good.” The
community had been plagued by break-ins. Zimmerman says that the troublemakers
always get away.

.. Releasing the 911 call, it turns out, is the pivotal moment in events after the
shooting. Had the mainstream media handled the 911 call responsibly, there is
every reason to believe that George Zimmerman would not be standing trial right
now and the nation would not be worrying that the outcome of his trial might
cause race riots.

.. The mainstream media did not handle that call responsibly, at all. Instead of
airing the call as it was made on the night of February 26, NBC News deceptively
edited it to make it appear that Zimmerman targeted Martin because the teen was
black. The image of a race-based killing now solidified, it’s only a matter of
time before the so-called “post-racial” president and his allies turn Martin’s
death into a usefully divisive racial political football, in a presidential
election year.

.. The damage from that false edit was only beginning. NBC News plays its false 911
call edit on the Today show and its other properties. The New York Times on
March 22 calls Zimmerman a “white Hispanic.” The rest of the media amplify the
false racial narrative. ABC News releases a video purporting to show no wounds
on Zimmerman at all, and later admits “error” while releasing a video clearly
showing wounds and blood on Zimmerman’s head consistent with his self-defense
story. At every step of the way, mainstream media “mistakes” and “errors” have
consistently built up the false narrative that Zimmerman targeted Martin and
killed him because he was black.

.. The media successfully fabricate the “armed white adult versus unarmed black
teen narrative,” and soon enough the zeitgeist turns decisively against
Zimmerman. The FBI and Justice Department announce that they are opening
investigations into the shooting on March 19. Reverend and MSNBC host Al
Sharpton holds a rally on March 22 in Sanford demanding “justice” and reportedly
10,000 show up. In Sharpton’s rally, NBC News and its properties have clearly
crossed the line from dishonest journalism to open one-sided advocacy. Two days
later, the race hustle is well and truly on, as Rev. Jesse Jackson arrives in
central Florida to join Sharpton in calling for “justice.” On March 23,
President Barack Obama weighs in, scolding America to engage in “soul-searching”
while saying that if he had a son, he would probably have looked like Trayvon
Martin. Obama’s remarks, delivered in the Rose Garden at the White House,
elevate the shooting past the point of no return. Charges against Zimmerman are
inevitable, lest Republican-controlled Florida face the Holder Justice
Department and a full-frontal media assault. At this point, the media and race
hustlers are sparing no quarter. Taxpayer-funded PBS simply calls Zimmerman
“white” on April 10 in a segment hosted by Gwen Ifill, who is black.

.. Fast forward more than a year and Obama has been re-elected while “white
Hispanic” Zimmerman is on trial facing second degree murder charges. Last week
the prosecution put on its case, and it turned out to be almost entirely helpful
to Zimmerman’s defense. His wounds, which ABC News had tried to cover up in its
own deception, were consistent with the testimony he gave to Sanford police
immediately after the shooting, when he told police that Martin, larger and more
athletic than Zimmerman, had gotten on top of him and was beating him and
smashing his head into a sidewalk to the point that Zimmerman reasonably feared
for his life. Zimmerman told police that he only shot Martin in self-defense.

.. The only clear evidence of racism in the case came from prosecution witness
Rachel Jeantel, who testified that Martin called Zimmerman a “creepy-ass
cracker” during a phone call shortly before the shooting. Witness John Good was
first on the scene after the shooting, and as a prosecution witness told the
jury that he had seen Martin on top of Zimmerman delivering a “ground and pound”
to the smaller man. Every other witness in the trial, with the exception of
Martin’s mother, has given testimony that in one way or another backs up
self-defense and introduces more than reasonable doubt that Zimmerman is guilty
of murder in any degree. Martin’s mother testified that she hears her son
screaming for help on the 911 recordings of the fight. But other witnesses
testified that the voice belongs to Zimmerman. Testimony about the 911 calls,
then, is a wash. The prosecution’s case has introduced enough reasonable doubt
on the murder charge that Zimmerman ought to be acquitted and go free. He could
still face a civil suit from Martin’s family, where the evidence standards are
lower and the outcome of the criminal trial could be useful to the Martin
family’s lawyers as they craft a civil case against Zimmerman.

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… Acquiting George Zimmerman …

Posted by paulfromwloh on Thursday,July 11th,2013

.. The question is now no longer whether or not George Zimmerman will be convicted of murdering Trayvon Martin . I believe that the question is what will then happen after he is acquitted.

.. The local investigators put together a thorough and professional investigation . And the local county put through a complete review of the entire case . Simply put , the case was reviewed with a fine – toothed comb  . And Zimmerman was found to have a complete and thorough case for self – defence .

.. Prosecutors in Florida brought a feeble case to court, filing a charge they knew — or should have known — would not withstand the challenge of even a modestly capable defense. There has been much testimony that supports Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense and precious little that undercuts it. The prosecution invested hope in the testimony of Martin’s parents that it was his screams for help and not Zimmerman’s that were captured on the 9-1-1 call, but on Monday the defense presented witnesses who effectively rebutted this claim. And on Tuesday, a forensic pathologist testified that the physical evidence was consistent with Zimmerman’s account of his confrontation with Martin.

.. Assume that prosecution and defense witnesses all testified in good faith as to their belief that the voice belonged to one or the other of the men. There is a common sense way to reasonably infer which of them was screaming for help. By now the extent of Zimmerman’s injuries are well known (though prosecutors seemed determined to keep this information under wraps for as long as possible). Zimmerman suffered a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head, all consistent with his account of being punched, knocked down, and having his head bashed on the concrete walkway. Other than the fatal gunshot, Martin’s only injury was bruising to one of his hands.

.. For the jury to believe the screaming voice was Martin’s they would have to accept a scenario in which Zimmerman remained silent while sustaining his injuries, and in which Martin screamed for help while sustaining only a bruised hand. Unlikely. For this and the prosecution’s many other manifest weaknesses, the jury will not convict. Nor should they.

.. Then what will happen ? It is beginning to dawn on members of the media and, through them, on the public at large ,  that an acquittal is very likely, thus lessening the potential for outrage when it comes to pass. Yes, there are those whose very existence depends on their being perpetually and professionally outraged, and there will be no shortage of aggrieved posturing when the not-guilty verdict is delivered, but I doubt the reaction will come to little more than that.

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