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… Why Sign This Treaty ?!?!

Posted by paulfromwloh on Wednesday,September 25th,2013

.. I am referring to the Arms Trade Treaty . Apparently , SecState JohnBoy Kerry is going to sign this treaty , at POTUS ‘ direction . Why bother ?

.. Dumb – Dumbs , there are 60 confirmed NO votes against the treaty . You need a 2/3 majority of all senators [67 of 100] to approve a treaty under our Consitution . Also , these treaties become the law of the land only when approved , not before . They are also subservient to the Constitution . If there is a conflict between the treaty and the U.S. Constitution , the Constitution holds sway , folks .

… from Hot Air …

The Senate won’t ratify the UN’s arms control treaty, but John Kerry is going to sign it anyway

posted at 6:01 pm on September 24, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Obama administration officials already signaled that they have every intention of ignoring the wishes and demands of the legislature on this one earlier this year, but the now infamous United Nations’ Arms Trade Treaty is finally just about finished after years of political meandering and John Kerry is all set to put his pen to paper. Via Fox News:

Secretary of State John Kerry plans to sign a controversial U.N. treaty on arms regulation on Wednesday, a senior State Department official told Fox News — despite warnings from lawmakers that the Senate will not ratify the agreement.

A State official said the treaty would “reduce the risk that international transfers of conventional arms will be used to carry out the world’s worst crimes,” while protecting gun rights.

“The treaty builds on decades of cooperative efforts to stem the international, illegal, and illicit trade in conventional weapons that benefits terrorists and rogue agents,” the official said. …

What impact the treaty will have in curbing the estimated $60 billion global arms trade remains to be seen. The U.N. treaty will take effect after 50 countries ratify it, and a lot will depend on which ones ratify and which ones don’t, and how stringently it is implemented.

The United Nations and their notoriously poor record at accomplishing much of anything besides mass corruption and the legitimization of dictators still isn’t sure what the impact of the treaty will be and how stringently it will be implemented? Man, that inspires some major confidence. Yeah, let’s sign that.

You’ll recall that the Senate, also earlier this year, signaled their outright opposition to the United States’ joining the treaty and their disinclination to ratify the thing by the necessary two-thirds majority:

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) introduced an amendment that would prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty in order to uphold the Second Amendment. His amendment passed on a 53-46 vote.

Republicans have been critical of President Obama’s decision to consider the treaty, although Obama has said he would not vote for anything that would violate the Second Amendment. …

“We’re negotiating a treaty that cedes our authority to have trade agreements with our allies in terms of trading arms,” Inhofe said. “This is probably the last time this year that you’ll be able to vote for your Second Amendment rights.”

But let that not stop the Obama administration in going right along with globalist bureaucrats insisting that there is no way in heck that this treaty could ever be abused to squash individual rights or back the United States into a corner on foreign-policy strategy — it’s just to help deter terrorism and violence, guys, really!

.. LEC again — the only way that these treaties truly get enforced is when the democracies sign on , and their democratic institutions make their governments (and others , with policy leverage) obey the law . These agreements are one big joke in the authortarian naitons and the dictatorships , unless the democracies have leverage over them and lean on them HARD …

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